British Steel Corporation, Scunthorpe, Lincolnshire, England
Company changed to Corus Steel, then again to Tata Steel
Early reitirement/Redundancy 23 Dec 2011
Emigrated
Emigrated to Malta 5 Jan 2012
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Started compiling my families tree whilst off work with a broken wrist, 2004
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Thank you for your commitment to the England Project and its goals in 2023. Together we are making English WikiTree profiles the best they can be!
I'd like to share our end-of-year 2023 Newsletter. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading about what we have achieved in 2023.
On behalf of all the England Project Leaders, we wish you a peaceful, productive and enjoyable 2024!
The Connect-a-Thon was fun, we hope you enjoyed yourself and are recovering. Thank you for helping, it is appreciated.
Our teams did really well. Our big Mighty Oaks Team came first overall, and our Little Mighty Oak Branches Team was in the top 5 on the Normalised Score. The combined score of our two teams was 11,109. A total of was 95,575 new profiles added by all during the thon.
We are delighted to announce a new Profile Improvements Team namely the England Tangled Families Team which will be formed by merging the Arborists, Gedcoms and Unknown Teams,
As we know tangled families are created from old GEDCOM’s which cover many generations resulting in the need to merge profiles and having to disconnect others together with finding unknown spouses and family members.
The merging of the existing three teams into one exciting new team will hopefully reduce duplications and definitely will increase collaboration between you our experienced and dedicated members.
Team Leader for the England Tangled Families Team will be Fran Weidman who has agreed to manage the team bringing her excellent knowledge and experience from creating and managing the Unknowns Team together with Fran’s five year membership of the England Project.
Currently as a member of one or more of the named teams we are asking you to join our new amalgamated Tangled Families Team and letting us know by contacting Joan Williams or Malc Rowlands through Discord Messaging, England Project Google Group or Private WT Message if you want to join our new team.
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for your commitment to the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members periodically to make sure everything is going well. This is our formal annual check-in with you.
Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Would you like to join any other teams?
Also, we would really like to hear which team is currently your highest priority. If you are a member of more than one team, could you please rank them from highest priority to lowest? Thank you! If you don’t see yourself as being part of a team, please let us know.
We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.
I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.
On behalf of all the Leaders, thank you again for all you do and we look forward to you continuing to be a part of our collaborative and fun Project!
We all did a great job this weekend, thank you, a job well done. The grand total for the event was 76,995 profiles created. The Mighty Oaks contributed 6,258 of those.
If you open up your contribution list you can review your work and possibly do some tidying up, before you orphan the profiles ;)
Thanks for your many minor corrections to profiles in my watchlist. I am slow in getting round to these minor improvements because the watchlist is approaching 5000 profiles. You are stimulating me to make other improvements.
You are clearly fairly familiar with East Yorkshire geography, and i have rarely if ever needed to adust your changes.
The obvious traps are confusions between;
The two Gartons, Garton on the Wolds and Garton cum Grimston aka Garton in Holderness
The two Frodinghams, North Frodingham and the distant South Frodingham aka Frothingham
The two Shiptons, Shipton north of York and Shipton cum Thorpe, today Shiptonthorpe.
Several Thorpes, the most prominent being Thorpe by Shipton and Thorpe by Lockington.
Three Aldbros, with various spellings, two north of York near the A1 and Aldbrough in Holderness near the North Sea coast.
No doubt you can tell me of other potential confusions.
Dave thank you so much for adding Harriet to the children of Mary and Samuel Needham! I know I'm super behind on adding all of their sources and children so I was so pleased to see someone else also taking an interest in the family. Would love to chat if you're connected to the family as much of my tree is on Ancestry (and hopefully soon on the Needham One Name Study). Concetta
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
I'd also like to share our annual Newsletter with you. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading a bit about what has gone on in 2022 and what our Project has achieved.
The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members every 6 months just to make sure everything is going well. There's no need to reply to this message unless you have something you'd like to let us know about (e.g. if you would like to change your team choices or provide other feedback). We will be in touch with you again in the middle of next year when we do our annual check-in with project members.
On behalf of all the Leaders, I wish you a peaceful and productive 2023.
We all did a great job this weekend, thank you for participating. The grand total for the event was 57,577 profiles sourced. The Mighty Oaks contributed 7,693 of those.
The Connect A Thon was fun, we hope you enjoyed yourself and are recovering! Thank you for joining us, it is much appreciated. Our combined score was 11718. Considering the heatwave in England we did really well. You did a great job!
The total overall figure was 87,731 new profiles added (some 3,000 more than last time) and numerous connections made.
This week through Thursday 23 June, the WikiTree Challenge is building out the tree of sci-fi/fantasy author Lois McMaster Bujold. I've just asked Andrew and Sue if we might have some help from the Norfolk team on this branch of Lois' family tree. We'd welcome all interested members!
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals over the past year. Every English profile we improve helps!
The England Project Leaders are currently doing our six-monthly check-in with all project members.
Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?
We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.
I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.
Well, it was a fun weekend, we hope you enjoyed yourself. Thank you for joining us. It is appreciated. The combined score for our teams was a fab 9,296 up 419 on last year, well done. The total overall figure was 56,972 profiles sourced.
I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the goals of the England Project during the past six months. We've achieved a huge amount during this period and we couldn't have done it without you and our other project members.
As the England Project Leaders, we are completing our six monthly check-in with all project members.
Are you happy to stay in your current project teams? Which teams are you most active in? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?
Also, do you have any feedback on what the project is doing well and anything we could do better in the future?
Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message. I look forward to hearing from you.
Thanks for the comment. Yes i am happy with being in the England Project. A great gang of folk. I am currently co-leader of the Yorkshire County Team, and also part of the Derbyshire Team. Sounds confusing, but we share common borders and the little devils will cross border just to make tracking them down a bit harder. Having said that, they also cross borders into Lancashire, Leicestershire, Cheshire, and many other counties.
I am quite happy to stick where I am, and just keep plodding away at those records, wherever they might lead.
Hello, My name is Gloria Potter(GSSD-B7N) wife of Michael Roy Potter(G76R-227) born in Linthwaite, Huddersfield, Yorkshire, 18 Oct 1946, his Father was Frank Potter (G76R-12K) born Yorkshire, 10 June 1920. Died in Qld, Australia 1 Dec 1998. He was the 2nd Husband of Dorothy May Potter formerly Macdonald, born Hart.(G76R-1P4) Her Father was William Theodore Hart(G7X1-Q49) who died in 1960. We have searched high & low and can find no other information about him except that we think he was a Sargent in the Police Force, in or near London. We have absolutely no information on his wife. Can you help please?
Hi Kayleigh, The connection finder is not really about DNA. On WikiTree we aim to connect everyone to just 1 tree, rather than loads of individual trees, that mesh here and there. If you click on the connection link, it will show you the route through individual families, either through birth or marriage or siblings, how we are connected. It does not mean we are actually related, just that we are connected. It can be quite interesting to follow the route. Our connection goes all the way to Utah in America, and back again to the UK.
Thank you for joining the Mighty Oaks for the Clean-A-Thon and congratulations on your work during the CAT what an amazing result for the Mighty Oaks we added 32,841 . Altogether the teams fixed a grand total of 233,558 profiles suggestions. We hope you had fun while cleaning the tree.
It's that time of the year again: check-in time! As England Project Leaders, we like to check in with you every six months or so to see how things are progressing. Back in May, we didn't ask for a response due to the rapid emergence of Covid-19 because we understood that people's lives were changing rapidly. While we are still living in a Covid world, we do need to hear back from you this time around
First of all, how are you doing? What are you currently working on? Are you happy with the team(s) you're in, or would you like to change things up?
Secondly, we're looking for some feedback on the Google Group and our Discord server. Do you use either or both of these? If you don't use either, why not? Do you have any suggestions on how we can improve participation and collaboration, either generally or for you personally?
Thank you for your participation in October’s 2020 Source-a-thon. Your contributions helped us to clear over 57,000 profiles that needed sourcing. This makes our Shared Tree all that much better.
We all did a great job this weekend, thank you for participating. A job well done the grand total for the event was 57,577 profiles sourced. The Mighty Oaks contributed 8,877 of those. Maddy lead all the way and ended with a fab score of 1,130. Making her no 6 on the individual scoreboard
Your England Leaders are completing the six monthly check in with all team members. I wanted to thank you for your work on English Profiles and particularly your work in the Yorkshire Team.
These are unprecedented and difficult times, and we understand as Project Leaders that your situation may have changed somewhat in the last few months. What we are all able to/ wish to contribute on Wikitree has changed. Please let me know if you are happy with your current role and team choice or if you wish to do something additional or different. Thank you again on behalf of all the project leaders for everything you do.
Thanks so very much for your participation in the spring Clean-a-thon! Every suggestion you cleared (over 600!) made our Tree that much better. The WikiTree community appreciates YOU!
I am just checking in with you as a member of the Yorkshire Team. We are entering the last 8 days of the England regional go Green Challenge reducing the suggestions, unsourced and unconnected numbers. On the 13th the Northern Region were in the lead for the challenge with drop of 16,728!
As your regional cheer leader - I am encouraging everyone to go go go
Welcome to the Connectors Project! Be sure to check out the Connectors project page to see some of what we do, our To-Do lists which have folks who need connected to our Global Tree, and please add the connectors tag to your G2G feed. We've also got a great sub-project, Connectors Chat, where we talk about what we're working on and where we'd like to help out. If you're new to making connections and want some simplified connections to work on, look at our Connecting Buddies page. Thanks for joining us!
I am a Welburn descendant of Joseph Welburn 1834/1916 via I hate to say this his Mistress Sarah Peacock Sollitt. Sarah was born 1847 in Bugthorpe and died 1916 Guisborough. Sarah married a William Sollitt and they also lived at Fridaythorpe though I think Sarah may have met Joseph much younger, one of her aunts or uncles married a Welburn and they may have met at family dos. So Sarah and William had 7 children William, Elizabeth Hannah Maria, Margaret and Mary Ann , William the husband died in 1875 so Sarah ended up having children with Joseph, Harriet 1878 and Louisa 1880. Though I think Sarah ran off and ended up in the work house, Joseph went after her and took her out and helped Sarah start a business in taking people's washing in. The other three children were Ernest 1883, Ada 1887, and Herbert 1890. DNA supports this with my father on My heritage and ancestry, I was told by a family member in Yorkshire but at that time we had no proof until a few days ago. So you have a new branch, I'm not too sure if you want to know the other part because of the fact we're from an affair. Look forward to hearing from you. My father is on ancestry Ivanstebbings92
I have more Welburns to enter. My Stepfather is Keith G Welburn a descendant of Thomas Welburn who had 3 sons that married 3 Darlison daughters. They have a Welburn/Darlison reunion every year and my mother has a notebook where they kept track of all the births and deaths that had taken place in the previous years. They also had a handwritten story about the journey that Thomas had made to get to Michigan after he came to America. He had apparently worked on the Erie Canal as it was being dug. I'll have to ask about it again. Keith turned 90 this year and is always interested in what I find about the Welburn family
Welcome to the Notables Project! Be sure to check out the Notables project page to see some of what we do, our To-Do lists which have folks who need added and connected to our Global Tree, and please add the Notables tag to your G2G feed. Remember, all Notables should be set to the most liberal privacy level possible and be sure to add the Notables template. Thanks for joining us!
Thanks very much for the more complete profile of Sarah (Dane) Hall which until now had a surname of Unknown!
Best wishes, Michael
Thank you for your commitment to the England Project and its goals in 2023. Together we are making English WikiTree profiles the best they can be!
I'd like to share our end-of-year 2023 Newsletter. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading about what we have achieved in 2023.
On behalf of all the England Project Leaders, we wish you a peaceful, productive and enjoyable 2024!
Best wishes,
Steve, England Project Leader
Hi Dave
The Connect-a-Thon was fun, we hope you enjoyed yourself and are recovering. Thank you for helping, it is appreciated.
Our teams did really well. Our big Mighty Oaks Team came first overall, and our Little Mighty Oak Branches Team was in the top 5 on the Normalised Score. The combined score of our two teams was 11,109. A total of was 95,575 new profiles added by all during the thon.
Check your personal figures here - https://wikitree.sdms.si/Challenges/ConnectAThon/TeamAndUser.htm (gives you a target for the next event).
The next Thon, towards the end of the year will be a Source-a-Thon, And watch G2G for the WikiTree Games sometime in August.
Thanks again for a great weekend, we look forward to working with you again soon.
Joan, Janet, Maddy, & Fran (Co Captains)
We are delighted to announce a new Profile Improvements Team namely the England Tangled Families Team which will be formed by merging the Arborists, Gedcoms and Unknown Teams,
As we know tangled families are created from old GEDCOM’s which cover many generations resulting in the need to merge profiles and having to disconnect others together with finding unknown spouses and family members.
The merging of the existing three teams into one exciting new team will hopefully reduce duplications and definitely will increase collaboration between you our experienced and dedicated members.
Team Leader for the England Tangled Families Team will be Fran Weidman who has agreed to manage the team bringing her excellent knowledge and experience from creating and managing the Unknowns Team together with Fran’s five year membership of the England Project.
Currently as a member of one or more of the named teams we are asking you to join our new amalgamated Tangled Families Team and letting us know by contacting Joan Williams or Malc Rowlands through Discord Messaging, England Project Google Group or Private WT Message if you want to join our new team.
Kind regards
Joan and Malc
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for your commitment to the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members periodically to make sure everything is going well. This is our formal annual check-in with you.
Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Would you like to join any other teams?
Also, we would really like to hear which team is currently your highest priority. If you are a member of more than one team, could you please rank them from highest priority to lowest? Thank you! If you don’t see yourself as being part of a team, please let us know.
We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.
I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.
On behalf of all the Leaders, thank you again for all you do and we look forward to you continuing to be a part of our collaborative and fun Project!
Kind regards,
Susie, England Project Leader
Regards Susie
We all did a great job this weekend, thank you, a job well done. The grand total for the event was 76,995 profiles created. The Mighty Oaks contributed 6,258 of those.
If you open up your contribution list you can review your work and possibly do some tidying up, before you orphan the profiles ;)
Thanks again for this weekend, you rock!
Joan, Janet, Maddy and Fran
Thanks for your many minor corrections to profiles in my watchlist. I am slow in getting round to these minor improvements because the watchlist is approaching 5000 profiles. You are stimulating me to make other improvements.
You are clearly fairly familiar with East Yorkshire geography, and i have rarely if ever needed to adust your changes.
The obvious traps are confusions between;
No doubt you can tell me of other potential confusions.
Best Wishes, Dave Horsley
edited by David Horsley
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals. Every single contribution you make helps improve English profiles!
I'd also like to share our annual Newsletter with you. You can read it here: England Project Newsletters. We hope you enjoy reading a bit about what has gone on in 2022 and what our Project has achieved.
The England Project Leaders like to touch base with each of our members every 6 months just to make sure everything is going well. There's no need to reply to this message unless you have something you'd like to let us know about (e.g. if you would like to change your team choices or provide other feedback). We will be in touch with you again in the middle of next year when we do our annual check-in with project members.
On behalf of all the Leaders, I wish you a peaceful and productive 2023.
Best wishes,
Maddy, England Project Leader
We all did a great job this weekend, thank you for participating. The grand total for the event was 57,577 profiles sourced. The Mighty Oaks contributed 7,693 of those.
See: https://wikitree.sdms.si/Challenges/SourceAThon/2022/TeamAndUser.htm to open up your contribution list so you can review your work and possibly some tidying up.
Thanks again for this weekend, we look forward to working with you again.
Joan, Janet, Maddy and Fran
edited by Janet (Langridge) Wild MSc RN
Hi Dave,
The Connect A Thon was fun, we hope you enjoyed yourself and are recovering! Thank you for joining us, it is much appreciated. Our combined score was 11718. Considering the heatwave in England we did really well. You did a great job! The total overall figure was 87,731 new profiles added (some 3,000 more than last time) and numerous connections made.
Check your personal figures here - https://wikitree.sdms.si/Challenges/ConnectAThon/TeamAndUser.htm (gives you a target for the next event)
Thanks again for your contributions; we look forward to working with you again during the Source-a-Thon in 3 months!
Fran and Carol
This week through Thursday 23 June, the WikiTree Challenge is building out the tree of sci-fi/fantasy author Lois McMaster Bujold. I've just asked Andrew and Sue if we might have some help from the Norfolk team on this branch of Lois' family tree. We'd welcome all interested members!
https://www.wikitree.com/genealogy/Parker-Family-Tree-28339
Best regards,
Karen Lowe, WikiTree Challenge team captain
On behalf of the England Project, I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the project's goals over the past year. Every English profile we improve helps!
The England Project Leaders are currently doing our six-monthly check-in with all project members.
Are you happy to with your current project team choices? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?
We also welcome any feedback on things you would like to see the project do more of in the future.
I look forward to hearing from you. Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message.
Many thanks!
Ian, England Project Leader
Well, it was a fun weekend, we hope you enjoyed yourself. Thank you for joining us. It is appreciated. The combined score for our teams was a fab 9,296 up 419 on last year, well done. The total overall figure was 56,972 profiles sourced.
Check your personal figures here - https://wikitree.sdms.si/Challenges/SourceaThon/TeamAndUser.htm (gives you a target for next year’s event)
Thanks again for this weekend, we look forward to working with you again
Joan & Maddy
I would like to thank you for all your contributions towards the goals of the England Project during the past six months. We've achieved a huge amount during this period and we couldn't have done it without you and our other project members.
As the England Project Leaders, we are completing our six monthly check-in with all project members.
Are you happy to stay in your current project teams? Which teams are you most active in? Are there other teams you would like to join or become more active in?
Also, do you have any feedback on what the project is doing well and anything we could do better in the future?
Please respond to this message by posting a reply below or sending me a private message. I look forward to hearing from you.
Many thanks!
Amelia, England Project Leader
Thanks for the comment. Yes i am happy with being in the England Project. A great gang of folk. I am currently co-leader of the Yorkshire County Team, and also part of the Derbyshire Team. Sounds confusing, but we share common borders and the little devils will cross border just to make tracking them down a bit harder. Having said that, they also cross borders into Lancashire, Leicestershire, Cheshire, and many other counties. I am quite happy to stick where I am, and just keep plodding away at those records, wherever they might lead.
Kindest regards Dave.
Amelia is fine :) I legally changed my name back in January.
I'm pleased to hear that you're enjoying the work you're doing! Feel free to reach out if there's anything I can do :)
Regards, Amelia
I hope this helps Dave
Great to "meet you" in the Member of the Week interview. :-)
Chris
Hi Dave
Thank you for joining the Mighty Oaks for the Clean-A-Thon and congratulations on your work during the CAT what an amazing result for the Mighty Oaks we added 32,841 . Altogether the teams fixed a grand total of 233,558 profiles suggestions. We hope you had fun while cleaning the tree.
See you later in the year for the Connect-A-Thon
Janet & Joan
Co-Leaders for the Mighty Oaks
It's that time of the year again: check-in time! As England Project Leaders, we like to check in with you every six months or so to see how things are progressing. Back in May, we didn't ask for a response due to the rapid emergence of Covid-19 because we understood that people's lives were changing rapidly. While we are still living in a Covid world, we do need to hear back from you this time around
First of all, how are you doing? What are you currently working on? Are you happy with the team(s) you're in, or would you like to change things up?
Secondly, we're looking for some feedback on the Google Group and our Discord server. Do you use either or both of these? If you don't use either, why not? Do you have any suggestions on how we can improve participation and collaboration, either generally or for you personally?
Looking forward to hearing from you,
Lizzie, Amy, Joan
England Project Leaders
Thank you for your participation in October’s 2020 Source-a-thon. Your contributions helped us to clear over 57,000 profiles that needed sourcing. This makes our Shared Tree all that much better.
Keep up the great work!
Pippin Sheppard WikiTree’s Appreciation Team
Hi Dave
We all did a great job this weekend, thank you for participating. A job well done the grand total for the event was 57,577 profiles sourced. The Mighty Oaks contributed 8,877 of those. Maddy lead all the way and ended with a fab score of 1,130. Making her no 6 on the individual scoreboard
See: https://wikitree.sdms.si/Challenges/SourceaThon/TeamAndUser.htm Click on "Tracking" to open up your contribution list so you can review your work and possibly some tidying up.
Thanks again for this weekend, you rock
Joan & Janet
Your England Leaders are completing the six monthly check in with all team members. I wanted to thank you for your work on English Profiles and particularly your work in the Yorkshire Team.
These are unprecedented and difficult times, and we understand as Project Leaders that your situation may have changed somewhat in the last few months. What we are all able to/ wish to contribute on Wikitree has changed. Please let me know if you are happy with your current role and team choice or if you wish to do something additional or different. Thank you again on behalf of all the project leaders for everything you do.
Joan
Thanks so very much for your participation in the spring Clean-a-thon! Every suggestion you cleared (over 600!) made our Tree that much better. The WikiTree community appreciates YOU!
Pip Sheppard WikiTree’s Appreciation Team
I am just checking in with you as a member of the Yorkshire Team. We are entering the last 8 days of the England regional go Green Challenge reducing the suggestions, unsourced and unconnected numbers. On the 13th the Northern Region were in the lead for the challenge with drop of 16,728!
As your regional cheer leader - I am encouraging everyone to go go go
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Space:England%2C_Regional_and_County_Statistics_Page
Good luck Janet :)
I am a Welburn descendant of Joseph Welburn 1834/1916 via I hate to say this his Mistress Sarah Peacock Sollitt. Sarah was born 1847 in Bugthorpe and died 1916 Guisborough. Sarah married a William Sollitt and they also lived at Fridaythorpe though I think Sarah may have met Joseph much younger, one of her aunts or uncles married a Welburn and they may have met at family dos. So Sarah and William had 7 children William, Elizabeth Hannah Maria, Margaret and Mary Ann , William the husband died in 1875 so Sarah ended up having children with Joseph, Harriet 1878 and Louisa 1880. Though I think Sarah ran off and ended up in the work house, Joseph went after her and took her out and helped Sarah start a business in taking people's washing in. The other three children were Ernest 1883, Ada 1887, and Herbert 1890. DNA supports this with my father on My heritage and ancestry, I was told by a family member in Yorkshire but at that time we had no proof until a few days ago. So you have a new branch, I'm not too sure if you want to know the other part because of the fact we're from an affair. Look forward to hearing from you. My father is on ancestry Ivanstebbings92
Thanks again. Dave
I have more Welburns to enter. My Stepfather is Keith G Welburn a descendant of Thomas Welburn who had 3 sons that married 3 Darlison daughters. They have a Welburn/Darlison reunion every year and my mother has a notebook where they kept track of all the births and deaths that had taken place in the previous years. They also had a handwritten story about the journey that Thomas had made to get to Michigan after he came to America. He had apparently worked on the Erie Canal as it was being dug. I'll have to ask about it again. Keith turned 90 this year and is always interested in what I find about the Welburn family