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John Throckmorton MP (abt. 1382 - abt. 1445)

Sir John Throckmorton MP aka de Throckmorton, Throgmorton
Born about in Warwickshire, Englandmap
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Husband of — married 1409 in Coughton, Warwickshire, Englandmap
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Died about at about age 63 in London, Englandmap
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Biography

Birth and Parents

John was the eldest son of Thomas Throckmorton and Agnes Besford.[1] His birth date is uncertain.

Marriage and Children

Soon after 30 June 1409[2] John married Eleanor Spine, daughter and co-heir of Guy Spine.[1] Through his marriage he acquired lands in Warwickshire, including Coughton.[1] He and Eleanor had at least the following children:

  • Thomas[3]
  • John,[3]
  • Elizabeth, who married Robert Russell[3] and is referred to as his eldest daughter in his will[4]
  • Agnes,[3] who married Thomas Winslow and is referred to as his second daughter in his will[4]
  • Margaret, who married John Rowse[3] and is referred to as his third daughter in his will[4]
  • A daughter who married Robert Gifford (not listed in the Visitation, but her husband is named in John Throckmorton's will, where she is said to be his fourth daughter[4] She is named as Jane in Wedgwood's History of Parliament, and said to have gone on to marry Drewe Barentyne and then John Marny.[5][6]
  • Matilda, who married Thomas Greene[3] and is referred to as his fifth daughter in his will[4]
  • Eleanor, who married Richard Knightley[3] and is referred to as his sixth daughter on his will[4]

Career

John trained as a lawyer, and was employed initially by Sir John Phelip of Kidderminster, Worcestershire. After Sir John died in 1415, John Throckmorton worked for Richard Beauchamp, Earl of Warwick. This led to many local appointments, especially in Worcestershire, where, among other offices he held, he was several times Under-Sheriff of the county. It also led to his simultaneously becoming a royal official: he was a chamberlain of the royal Exchequer from 1418, and Under-Treasurer of the Exchequer from 1433 to 1443.[1][2] He had royal grants, including, along with others, the right to revenues of the diocese of Worcester in 1433.[1]

John was a Justice of the Peace for Worcestershire from 1414 to his death, and for Warwickshire for six years from 1433.[1][2] He represented Worcestershire six times in Parliament.[2]

After Richard Beauchamp Earl of Warwick died in 1439, John was an executor of his will, and custodian of the lands of Richard Beauchamp's son Henry, who was a minor. He acquired a new influential patron in Ralph Boteler, 1st Lord Sudeley, whom he named as overseer of his will.[1]

Death and Will

John died in London on 12 April 1445 and was buried at Fladbury, Worcestershire.[1][2]

Will of John de Throckmorton[4][7] Dated 12 April 1445, proved 19 April 1445.

"The last will & testament of me Johan Throckmorton made at London XIIth daye of April the yere of our Lord MCCCCXLV. I Johan Throgmorton in good mynde make my testament in this manner: first I bequeathe my soule to Almighty God to our Lady Seynt Marie and to all the holie companie of heven, my body to be buried in the parish Church of S. John Baptist of ffladbury in ye County of Worcester also I will & charge yt myne executors let make a stonne of Marbyll of such largenesse as may kever my ffadur my modyer and me and my wife yeff she wold lye per, with a memoriall upon ye said stone after ye discretion of myne executors. Also I will and charge ye executors of this my last will yt my detts first ben payd above all thyngs, and yt where I have been all dayes of my life in my Countrie Astever in ye worlde as ye worlde asketh puocheift divers landes and tenements and made divers Contracts and covenents And yet be any man yt can complayn and say yt I have not truly and duly after seeth and concerns performed & fulfilled such covenants as wer made betwixte thoo persons & me. I will and charge yat yeyhen agreed & contented. Also I wolle and charge yf yr be any person yt I have take goode to labour for him and I have not do my labore and entent to performe his entent I will that he be agreed. Also I bequeathe to Robert Russell yt hath wedded my eldest daughter C marks. Also to Thomas Wynslow I bequeathe yt hath wedded my second daughter of such goodes (???) ye sayd Thomas Wynslow oweth me after ye discretion of myne executors also I bequeathe to John Rous yt hath wedded my third daughter XL li. Also I bequeathe to Robert Gyfford, yt hath wedded my fourth daughter XX li., ye which he oweth me, with yat, yat he wolde be kynde Alianore my wyf and to his wyf yt ys my daughter. Also I bequeathe to Thomas Greene yt hath wedded my fyffe daughter such sylver plate as Sir Thomas Green Knight hath leyed to me to wedde and for seyd mony a day agoo and in case Sir Thomas Greene Knight will pay ye somme yat ye plate lyeth fore yen I will that my sone Thomas Grene have ye sayd somme. Also I bequeathe to Richard Knightley yt hath wedded my sixte daughter, all ye silver plate yt thabbot of Seynt James Abbey of Northampton hadde in plegge ye which I sette oute. Also I bequeathe to John my younger son all my money yt he oweth me. Also I will yt my servants been rewarded after ye discretion of my executors and after yeir continuance in yeir service. Also I bequeathe to my modyr Church of Worcester XL s. Also I bequeathe to ye new werk of St. Brydes Church in fletesbriele XX s. Also I bequeathe to every of ye fower orders of ffryers in Worcester XL s. Also I bequeathe to every prison house in London vjs. viijd. The residue of all my godes, I will and charge myne executors yt yey done for me and dispose so as yey wolde yt I shyld do for them and yey had passed oute of ye world before me. My executors, Alianore my wyf chef executor, Tho. Throckmorton myn son and Rawlyn Ingoldesby the Coper executor, and I will yat ye seyd Rawlyn have for his labour and diligence yt he must have aboute of yis my testament XX li. I ordeyne also and mak overseer of this my will and testament for grete affians and trust yt I have hadde in his Lordship and shall have after my deth Sir Rauf Buttelere, Lord of Sudeley and Treasor of England. He for yt oversighte to be rewarded after ye discretion of myne executors.
In witness whereof I have sette ye seale of Myne Armes (yenen) ye day and yere above said.
Proved April 19, 1445 before Ven. Master Alexander Prowit Commissary."

Research Notes

WikiTree currently has profiles for two daughters who married Robert Gifford: Mary and Jane. Neither of these daughters' profiles is well-sourced. This needs further research.

Coughton Court

Coughton Court, which was a Throckmorton residence in later times, was a Tudor edifice. John Throckmorton may well have had a residence in a previous medieval building at Coughton, but, if so, this has not survived.[8][9]

Sources

Footnotes and citations:
  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, entry for 'Throgmorton, John (d. 1445)', print and online 2004, revised online 2008
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 History of Parliament, database online, extracted from The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421, ed. J.S. Roskell, L. Clark, C. Rawcliffe., 1993, THROCKMORTON, John (d.1445), of Throckmorton in Fladbury, Worcs. and Coughton, Warws., Author: L. S. Woodger.
  3. 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 The Visitation of the County of Gloucester, taken in the year 1623, Harleian Society, 1885, Throgmorton pedigree, p. 162, Internet Archive
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.5 4.6 Jon Stallard. Butler of Droitwich: 1300-1700, Lulu.com, 2008, Appendix 12, pp. 275-276, Transcript of John Throckmorton's will, Google Books
  5. Josiah C Wedgwood. History Of Parliament (1439-1509), HMSO, 1936, p. 40, Internet Archive
  6. Tudor Place names her as Mary, but with no source - http://www.tudorplace.com.ar/THROCKMORTON1.htm#Mary%20THROCKMORTON6
  7. The National Archives, PROB 11/3, fol. 248v
  8. Historic Houses website, Coughton Court, accessed 24 September 2020
  9. Wikipedia: Coughton Court
  • 'Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, entry for 'Throgmorton, John (d. 1445)', print and online 2004, revised online 2008, available online on subscription and via some libraries
  • Oxford Dictionary of National Biography, entry for 'Throgmorton family', print and online 2004, revised online 2008
  • Dictionary of National Biography, 1885-1900, Vol. 56, p. 330, entry for 'Throckmorton, John', Wikisource
  • History of Parliament, database online, extracted from The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1386-1421, ed. J.S. Roskell, L. Clark, C. Rawcliffe., 1993, THROCKMORTON, John (d.1445), of Throckmorton in Fladbury, Worcs. and Coughton, Warws., Author: L. S. Woodger.
  • Nicolas, Nicholas Harris. Testamenta Vetusta (Nichols & Son, London, 1826) Vol. 1, Page 248: Will of Sir John Throckmorton, Knt.
  • The Visitation of the County of Gloucester, taken in the year 1623, Harleian Society, 1885, Throgmorton pedigree, p. 162, Internet Archive
  • Sitherwood, Francis Grimes. Throckmorton Family History, Bloomington, Illinois, 1929, pp. 17-18, Internet Archive

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So would he have been born in Warwickshire or Worcestershire? My apologies but I'm trying to correct some personal family charts and the top lists Warwickshire but I thought Eleanor was from there and he thusly acquired lands w/ their marriage...but that he was born in Worcester.possibly even Fladbury where he was buried?

Thanks for any advice- Becky Elizabeth Simmons-11603

posted by Becky Simmons
Sir John Throckmorton was my 17th great grandfather. I now have the sticker.
posted by Dean Walker
Sir John was my 19th Great Grandfather. How do I use the relationship sticker in my profile?
posted by Chris Shepherd
Hi Chris - you copy the code (including the double curly brackets each end) and paste it into your own biography in edit mode. Change "add your relationship here" to your actual relationship. Save. It then produces that sticker. Message me directly if this doesn't work out for you.

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posted by Jo Fitz-Henry
Thanks a lot for getting back with me. I will give you a holler if i have any issues.
posted by Chris Shepherd
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Sir John Throckmorton was my 18th GG Grandfather.

posted by Nancy Barker
me too.......18th gggg grampa to Sir John Throckmorton
posted by Carole Taylor
The background image is of a building erected in Tudor times, well after John's death. I am therefore proposing to remove it as background. There may have been a previous medieval house on the site, but it has not survived. See https://www.historichouses.org/houses/house-listing/coughton-court.html and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coughton_Court. The image is actually of the Tudor building as it looked in the 19th century - see https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Coughtoncourtmorris_edited.jpg.
posted by Michael Cayley
I have now removed the background image. I have attached it to George Throckmorton, https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Throckmorton-55, who had the Tudor edifice built.
posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
I plan to do some work on this profile on behalf of the England Project.
posted by Michael Cayley
My 16th Great Grandfather. Do your best Michael!!
posted by Brad Cunningham U.E.
I have now finished the main work I currently intend on this profile. If anyone spots any typos etc, please either correct them or message me. Thanks.

I have a little to do to sort out daughters, but this should not significantly affect this profile.

posted by Michael Cayley
Coughton Court, which was to be a Throckmorton residence, was a Tudor edifice.

I think you meant: Coughton Court, which was "thought" to be a Throckmorton residence, was a Tudor edifice. Or "believed."

posted by Anonymous Dorland
Thanks. I have clarified the wording - I hope, successfully.
posted by Michael Cayley

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