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Thompson Randolph (1746 - 1826)

Thompson Randolph
Born in Dumfries, Prince William County, Colony of Virginiamap
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Husband of — married 1770 in Prince William County, Virginia, United Statesmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 79 in Dumfries, Prince William County, Virginia, United Statesmap
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Biography

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Thompson Randolph lived in Virginia.

Marriage

Thompson Randolph married Ann Baylis.

“Ann Baylis (Randolph) was born in August 1755, the oldest child of John Baylis, and Jane Blackburn (Baylis). When only 15 years old, she married Thompson Randolph, the son of John and Anne Randolph.”[1]

Ann (Baylis) Randolph was killed by Indians with her young son, sometime around 1781.[1] Her husband, Thompson Randolph then killed the two Indians who killed Ann and his son.[2] This attack occurred at Kinslow station, Kentucky, where the family had spent two years pioneering with other families. On the night of the attack, most of men at Kinslow station had gone to defend a nearby fort, leaving only four men to hold down the fort against a much larger group of attacking Indians. Thomas Randolph and his five-year-old son, William managed to escape and make the long trek home to Virginia. [3]

Research Notes

  • Needs Research: The profile currently focuses on Ann Baylis, who has her own profile in which to detail her life. What reliable, contemporaneous sources have been found for Thompson? Spratlin-29 15:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
  • Needs Biography: The Biography needs to focus on Thompson. Spratlin-29 15:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Needs Reliable Sources

This biography would benefit from the direct citing of reliable, contemporaneous sources. Spratlin-29 15:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Thompson / Thomson Randolph

He was born Thompson Randolph[citation needed] and the name has been handed down the family line. In older records,[citation needed] the name is often spelled Thomson. The dropping of the letter p often leads people to confuse him with his younger brother Thomas Osborne Randolph.[citation needed]

Thomas Randolph

A son Thomas Randolph is named in the Will of John Randolph, dated 11 September 1789.[4] Perhaps this is a misspelling of Thomson which is perhaps a misspelling of Thompson. Spratlin-29 15:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)

Review for Reliable Sources and Incorporate Into Biography

This section has been edited for readability. Some of these appear to have the source attached, but they should be filled out better to enable others to access it.

  • Dumfries Store Ledgers 1771-1772: Dumfries, Prince William County, Virginia, United States. John Glassford and Company and Successors, Maryland and Virginia, Ledger 1771- 1772, Reel 67, Tag # 232 & 68, Tag # 620. Index abstracted by Ron Cornwell. page 188
  • Dumfries Stores Ledgers 1774-1775. Prince William County, Virginia, United States John Glassford and Company and Successors, Maryland and Virginia, Ledger 1774- 1775, Reel 68, Tag # 496. Index abstracted by Ron Cornwell. page 141.
  • Moved abt 1781 • Nelson County, Kentucky, United States. Moved to Kentucky. Settled along Simpsons Creek in Jefferson County. In October of 1784, that part of Jefferson County, became Nelson County.
  • Court Records 05 Mar 1782, Jefferson County, Kentucky, United States
    "At a court held for Jefferson County on the 5th day of March 1782. Ordered that the County Surveyor lay off, the following.."Page 28 of "Early Settlers: The Records of Jefferson County" By Adjunct General's Office Thompson Randolph four hundred acres
  • Indian attack. 01 Sep 1782 • Kentucky, United States, The Massacre at Kincheloe’s Station
  • 1782_Residence. Prince William County, Virginia, United States. Tax Record for 100 acres
  • Adoption. abt 1783 • Prince William County Virginia, United States. Thompson places his son William Bayliss Randolph with his Uncle William Baylis
  • Residence 1784. Prince William County, Virginia, United States. 1784 Tax Records for Land_100 acres
  • Land Deed. 17 May 1785 • Prince William County Virginia, United States. Deed Book W, page 145, Prince William Co., Va., May 17, 1785
  • Residence 1787. Prince William County, Virginia, United States. Tax Records for land_100 acres
  • Will of John Randolph_Will Book G, pages 462-465. 07 Sep 1789 • Prince William County, Virginia, United States
    "I give unto my son, Thompson Randolph his part already and as to a certain debt due ..."
  • Residence 1789. Prince William County, Virginia, United States. Tax Records for land_100 acres
  • Land Transactions 1795. Prince William County, Virginia, United States. Land Transactions 1795 • Prince William County, Virginia, United States 100 acres of land. The Randophs of Prince William County Virginia" page 42
  • 17 Dec 1799. Property Petition to Sell Dettingen Parish Glebe 1799, Prince William County, Virginia {{https://www.werelate.org/wiki/Inhabitants_of_Dettingen_Parish%2C_Prince_William%2C_Virginia}}
  • 25 May 1801 • Cypress Creek, Muhlenberg County, Kentucky, United States. Claimed 200 acres. His brother John also claimed land.
  • Marriage. 01 Dec 1802 • Muhlenberg County, Kentucky, United States. Hannah Taylor, wife 3 (1785–1839)[5]
  • Court Records. 1803-1808 • Prince William County Virginia, United States
    "On Sept. 27, 1803, Thompson Randolph and Mary Johnson paid $200 to William Tackett for a negro woman named Nell -Deed Book 2, 1802-1805. The Johnsons may have been related to the Randolphs. A Randolph Johnson's name appears in Prince William County Order Book
  • Marriages. First marriage to Anne Blackburn Baylis; they had two children. Second marriage was to Mary "Molly "Johnston and they had one son name John Thompson Randolph. Mary Johnston records are scarce. The third marriage was to Hannah Taylor with whom he had at least seven children.

Check these:

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 Book: Blum, William. The Baylis Family of Virginia, digital images, (Google Books : accessed 16 May 2024); citing United States: Willetta Baylis Blum and William Blum, Sr., 1958, pp. 24, 38, 52, 141, 143, 145, 158, 171, 173, and 237.
  2. Book: Randolph, Clarence Coulson, 1861- [from old catalog], Family history written by C. C. Randolph ..., digital images, (HathiTrust : accessed 16 May 2024); citing Alliance, Ohio, The Review publishing co., 1908; page: 3-4.
  3. Book: Bowen, A.W. A portrait and biographical record of Portage and Summit counties, Ohio, digital images, (Google Books : accessed 16 May 2024); citing n.p. : Рипол Классик, (n.d.), page 574-576.
  4. County Court, Prince William County, Virginia, General index to wills, 1734-1951; wills, inventories & accounts, 1734- 1872, Wills, inventories & accounts, Vol. C 1734-1744 Wills, inventories & accounts, Vol. G 1778- 1791; database with images, FamilySearch (images 543-545).
  5. Marriage: "Kentucky, U.S., County Marriage Records, 1783-1965," database with images, Ancestry Sharing Link - (Ancestry Record 61372 #1881490 : accessed 16 May 2024); citing Original data: Marriage Records. Kentucky Marriages. Madison County Courthouse, Richmond, Kentucky.

See also:

  • 1810 Census: "1810 United States Federal Census," database with images, Ancestry Sharing Link - (Ancestry Record 7613 #707474 : accessed 16 May 2024); citing Year: 1810; Census Place: Prince William, Virginia; Roll: 70; Page: 284; Image: Vam252_70-0534; FHL Roll: 0181430.
  • Military: "United States Rosters of Revolutionary War Soldiers and Sailors, 1775-1783," database with images, (FamilySearch Record: QGK1-1B87 : accessed 16 May 2024) FamilySearch Image: 3Q9M-CS3Q-HFL7-8, Name: Thompson Randolph; Military Service Date: from 0177 to 1983; Military Service Place: United States; Mil Regiment: IP; Vis Status: VISIBLE; Source Reference: John Hastings Gwathmey. Historical Register of Virginians in the Revolution, Soldiers, Sailors, Marines,1775-1783 Richmond [Virginia] : Dietz Press, 1938; System Of Record: SLS; citing Page: 649; Digital film/folder number: 101711079; Image number: 663.
  • Book: Small. Deborah K. The Randolphs of Prince William County, Virginia: Volume 1, database, (Google Books : accessed 16 May 2024); citing United States: Randolph, 1979, pp. 42-43, 192.
  • Book: Small, Deborah K. The Randolphs of Prince William County Virginia, (Winter Park, Florida, 1989), vol. II, pp. 42. 146-147. Volume II is a book of corrections to Volume I and a more in-depth look at the Fitch line.
  • Thompson/Thomson Randolph on Ancestry Ancestry Profile

Acknowledgments

  • This person was created on 08 April 2011 through the import of BJ-2011-03-02.ged.
  • Cheryl Roy Ancestry Tree




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posted by Ken Spratlin
Is there a reliable source for the name "Thompson Thomas Randolph"? Is this profile intended to be for "Thomas Randolph", named as "Thomas" in the Will of John Randolph Sr (1726-bef.1790)?
posted by Ken Spratlin
Thomas Osborne Randolph born 1764 and Thompson Thomas Randolph born 1746 are brothers with an 18-year age gap. Thompson was sometimes spelled in records in earlt Virginia as "Thomson". In the future, the name "Thompson" does continue as a family name. The reality is most likely Thompson has no middle name or it is unknown and probably should technically be written as Thompson/Thomsom. All records for my 4th great uncle, but the his father's Will, list him as "Thompson"

The will of John Randolph, 1789, mentions Thomas (Thompson) who has already received his part, and Thomas Osborn Randolph who he cuts off with one shilling. Records prove there was a Thompson and a much younger son, Thomas Osborn Randolph. Much of the information on Thompson Randolph is based on "A Family History" by C. C. Randolph written in 1908."

Thompson "receiving his part" of in advance may have been related to the tragic circumstances of his family demise; the Massacre of Burnt Station or previous debt obligations.

posted by L S Randolph
edited by L S Randolph
I guess I should have instead asked: What is the reliable source (link please) for the first name Thompson/Thomsom? It appears in father John Sr's Will two sons are named: Thomas Randolph and Thomas Osborn Randolph. The Will attached to John Sr's profile is the clerk's copy, so if the original Will exists, that could be checked also for the spelling of the first name.
posted by Ken Spratlin
Thompson/Thomson Randolph

1746–1826[1]

posted by L S Randolph
Reviewing that family tree:

What reliable source shows that Thomas Randolph in John Sr's Will went by the name Thompson?

What reliable source connects Thompson Randall (1810 US Census) in the tree to this Thompson Randolph and John Randolph Sr?

That tree has Thompson Randolph marrying in 1802 in Muhlenberg, KY. What connects that Thompson Randolph to this Thompson Randolph and John Randolph Sr?

Why would Thompson Randolph, deceased 1826, appear in an 1890 US Census?

The event dated 7 Sep 1789 in the tree says "I give unto my son, Thompson Randolph …". Is there an image of the Will that says Thompson?

The tree seems to question whether the 1810 Census is being conflated between Thompson Randel/Randol and Thompson Randolph. How can this be resolved?

posted by Ken Spratlin
Is there at least one reliable (original) source that lists Thompson Randolph and any of John Sr's children in the same source?
posted by Ken Spratlin
This is CORRECT

Thompson Thomas Randolph Born 20 May 1746 in Dumfries, Prince William County, Colony of Virginia

ANCESTORS Son of John Randolph and Anne (Osborne) Randolph Brother of Mary Ann Randolph,Nancy (Randolph) Tyler [half], John Robert Randolph II, Elizabeth Osbourne Randolph, Mildred (Randolph) Oliver, Margaret (Randolph) Purcell, William Randolph [half], Sarah Randolph [half] and Frances Randolph Husband of Anne Blackburn (Bayless) Randolph — married 1770

DESCENDANTS Father of William Baylis Randolph and John Randolph Died 1826 at about age 79 in Dumfries, Prince William County, Virginia, United States

https://www.ancestry.com/family-tree/person/tree/26463131/person/26036941748/facts

posted by L S Randolph
This merger appears to have been completed.
posted by L S Randolph
Randolph-4087 and Randolph-302 appear to represent the same person because: same name, same birth, same father, same siblings
posted by Jack Graham
This merger appears to have been completed.
posted by L S Randolph
Randolph-1650 and Randolph-302 appear to represent the same person because: same name, same spouse.

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