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Richard Palgrave MD (bef. 1585 - bef. 1651)

Dr. Richard Palgrave MD aka Palsgrave
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Richard Palgrave MD migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 3, p. 1373)
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SEE DISAMBIGUATION: Please don't conflate this "Dr." Richard Palgrave of Barnham Broom/Wymondham, Norfolk and Charlestown, Massachusetts with Richard Palgrave of Great Yarmouth, Norfolk.

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Biography

Richard Palgrave of Wymondham, Norfolk, physician, was born by about 1585.[1][2][3]
In Magna Carta Ancestry (2011) and Royal Ancestry (2013), Richardson states that Richard Palgrave was the son of Edward Palgrave, clerk, Rector of Barnham Broom, Norfolk, by an unidentified wife. Richardson further states that Richard was a legatee in the 1623 will of his father, Edward.[1] Moriarty, in "The Parentage and Ancestry of Dr. Richard Palgrave of Charlestown, Mass.," agrees with Richardson.[3] Anderson, in Great Migration Begins (1995) has Richard's origins as unknown with an estimated birth date of "by about 1593 based on estimated date of marriage".[4] See Research Notes, below, for a further discussion of Richard's origins.

Richard is recorded as a ”practitioner in physick" (that is, a doctor) in the 1622/3 burial record of the first son of his called Benjamin[5] and the 1628 baptism record of his daughter Hannah.[6]

Immigration to New England

In 1630, Richard immigrated to America[4] in the Winthrop Fleet[7] with his wife and three older daughters, arriving in April or May.[1] He resided in Charlestown, Massachusetts, where he was admitted an inhabitant in 1630,[1][7] and was in the lists of Charlestown inhabitants dated 9 January 1633/4 and January 1635/6.[4] Richard and Anne were admitted to the Boston church in 1631 and Richard was admitted a freeman 18 May 1631[7] as "Mr. Rich: Palgrave".[1][4] Richard was a signer of the town agreement that created the office of selectman on 10 February 1634/5.[4]
On 10 January 1633/4 he was granted a lot at the east end of lots at "Mystic Side at the Creek with New Town pale on the South."[7] Richard was granted 200 acres in the area that became Woburn, Massachusetts in 1639,[1][4] on 5 November.[7] At some point before his death, he transferred the Woburn land to his daughter and son-in-law, Sarah and John Alcock.[1][4]
On 19 October 1650, Richard owed the colony £2 for taxes.[7] At that time, he was living in Charlestown and he and his wife bought a small farm in Charlestown Neck from Henry Evans of Boston.[1][4]

Marriage and Children

Richard married Anna (or Anne) _______ (born about 1594)[1][3] in about 1618.[4] They had three sons and seven daughters:
  1. Mary, wife of Roger Wellington,[1] was baptised at Fundenhall, Norfolk on 25 August 1618;[8] married by 1638[4] and had six children[7][9]
  2. Sarah, wife of Dr. John Alcock,[1] was born about 1621, died at Roxbury 29 November 1665 (29:9:1665), aged 44; married by 1649[4] and had nine children[7][9]
  3. Benjamin,[1] baptized 19 December 1622 in Wymondham, Norfolk, England[10][11] and was buried there 22 February 1622/3[3][9][5]
  4. Benjamin (again),[1] baptized 5 February 1623/4 in Wymondham, Norfolk[12][13] and was buried there 3 February 1629/30[3][9]
  5. Elizabeth, married John Edwards[1] by 8 June 1651[4][7] and had issue. Elizabeth was baptized 10 April 1626 in Wymondham, Norfolk[3][14] and died shortly before 20 October 1707 when her will was proved in Massachusetts (Suffolk Probate, No 3069)[9]
  6. Hannah,[1] baptized 28 September 1628 at Wymondham, Norfolk[3][6] - no further record[9]
  7. Rebecca,[1] born 25 July 1631 in Charlestown, was living unmarried 8 June 1651[9] (date of father's will),[7] died unmarried by 11 March 1668/9 (date of mother's will)[4]
  8. John,[1] born 6 March 1633/4 in Charlestown, baptized in Boston 9 March; married 8 February 1655/6 Mary Maverick;[4] died without issue before 20 September 1660 (date his widow remarried)[7][9]
  9. Lydia, wife of Edmund Heylett,[1] was born 15 January 1635/6 in Charlestown and baptized in Boston 17 January, married after 8 June 1651 (date of father's will)[4] and had at least one child[7][9]
  10. Bethia,[1] born 10 [sic] July 1638 at Charlestown, baptized 8 July 1638 at Boston, died 21 August 1638[7][9] at Charlestown[4]
NOTE that the Ann Palgrave of Salem and Beverly who married Nicholas Woodbury was not a daughter of this family. She was the only daughter of the other Richard Palgrave. See Disambiguation, below.

Death and Legacy

[Mr.] Richard Palgrave, physician, left a will dated 8 June 1651 and proved 8 August 1651 (see below).[1][4][7] The inventory of the estate of "Richard Palgrave of Charlestown, physician," was taken 1 October 1651 and totalled £313, including £80 in real estate.[1][4] On 14 October 1651, his widow was confirmed as the sole executrix of Richard's estate:[4][7]
"answer to the petition of Anna Palgrave, of Charlstow[n], widow, this court doth confirm her as the sole executrix of her late husband, Richard Palgrave, & doth also hereby confer all her said husband's estate upon her & her heirs forever, according to the desire & true intent of the testator, expressed in his will".[15]
Richard's widow, Anna, returned to England and resided in Stepney, Middlesex[1][4] by 1655, near two of her married daughters - one who lived in Stepney, the other in nearby Deptford.[7] On 1 September 1657 Edmund Heylett, attorney of widow "Anna Palsgrave", sold to Timothy Wheeler of Concord the house and lots of land that belonged to her late husband for £140.[16][17] Anna was back in New England in 1665,[4] and was living in Boston, when she sold land in Woburn[1] on 1 December:
"Anne Palgrave of Boston, widow," sold to James Converse of Woburn, yeoman, two lots of land in Woburn, one of fifty-six acres and one of twenty-two acres.[18]
Anne died 17 March 1668/9, aged 75, at Roxbury, Massachusetts.[1][4] She left a will dated 11 March 1668/9 that was proved 13 May 1669.[1][4][7] Anna's transcribed will can be seen HERE. The executors of her will were her friends Mr. Edward Rawson and Mr. John Hall of Boston.[7]
While Richard Palgrave's surname ended with his son, "through his daughters he left a numerous posterity among the gentry of XVIIth century New England, and was ancestor of one notorious but interesting person, Palgrave Williams... Attorney General of Rhode Island," who later left behind a wife and children to become quartermaster to the notorious pirate Captain Bellamy of the Spanish Main.[7]
Dr. Richard Palgrave was also the ancestor of three American Presidents: Franklin Delano Roosevelt, George Herbert Walker Bush, and George Walker Bush.[19]

Will and Inventory

Will dated 8: 4 mo. [June]: 1651, proved 8: 6 mo. [Aug]: 1651 was recorded in 1694. Richard left his entire estate to his wife and provided that his son John and two daughters Rebecca and Lydia should be at their mother's disposal in regard to their marriage and their portion. He had already provided for three of his married daughters: Mary, Sarah and Elizabeth.[7]
"The last will and Testament of Richard Palgrave Phisition, inhabitant in Charlestowne in New England this eaight Day of the fourth month 1652…

I doe hereby give and bequeath unto my Beloved wife Anne Palgrave all my lawfull debts due unto mee, alsoe all my goods movable and immovable and all my cattell great and smale, and I likewise doe hereby give grant and divise all my Howsing and Lands Arable and meadow unto her to bee hers after my decease for ever to dispose off as shee sees meet and fit. Likewise my will is that my son John Palgrave and my two daughters Rebeckah and Lydia shalbee at my sayd wives disposing both in regard of their marriages as alsoe of the giving and disposing of any thinge which is myne as above named and by me left and bequeathed unto her by this my last will and Testament.

And for my three daughters Mary Sarah and Elizabeth who are all at the present married this my last will is that they rest, and bee satisfied with that which they have had of mee already or with what my wife shall please to bestowe upon them or any of them in her life tyme, or at her decease.

To conclude my will is and hereby I doe ordaine and appoint my beloved wife Anne Palgrave to bee my full and sole Executrix of this my last will… the 8th day of the sixth month 1652.
Richard Palgrave

Witnesses
John Greene
Joanna Greene
John Hodges[20]
"A True Inventory of the Lands, Howsing, Goods, Cattell, and Chattells of Richard Palgrave Phisition late Inhabitant of Charltowne deceased… the first day of the eaight month a thousand six hundred and fifty one.
Imprimis Howsing; Land Arrable and meadow, and
cows commons....................................................80-00-0
Mares, Horses, Cattell, Swine and Poultrey at.86-00-0
His Apparell at......................................................12-00-0
His Bookes at........................................................25-00-0
His stids [?] and phisikall drugs and a survayiors
Instrument............................................................40-00-0
Bedding and their furniture at...........................19-00-0
Linnen fine and cours as sheetes tabell cloaths and
napkins at.............................................................10-00-0
Two flock Bedds and their furniture at.............06-00-0
A presse, a Trunk, 2 tabells 4 chairs 3 glas cases,
a forme a settell [ ] a glas case, A cabinet, a
Looking glas,.........................................................05-10-0
Nine cushions at...................................................02-03-0
A copper kettell, a Bras Kettell, a Bras pott, a Iron
Pott, a Bras morter and pestell, a smale Bras [ ]
a bras skillet, a bras Ladell and scimer, a paire of
bras scales, a Bras................................................05-06-0
Frying pan a Bras chaffin dish at Sawes Axes, Trevits
spades, hows, spits, pot hangers and pott hooks,
pick Axe and Other Lumber at...........................06-00-0
Plate.......................................................................05-00-0
Corne, peas, and Hay at......................................08-00-0
Cheese and Butter at...........................................02-00-0
A fowling peece....................................................00-15-0
..............................................................................313-00-8"[20]

Coat of Arms

Palgrave, Dr. Richard, of Wymondham, Norfolk, England, and of Charlestown, Massachusetts, 1630:[21]
  • Arms: Azure a lion rampant gardant silver
  • Crest: A leopard's face and neck erased silver

Research Notes

Disambiguation

Please don't confuse this "Dr." Richard Palgrave-4 of Barnham Broom/Wymondham, Norfolk and Charlestown, Massachusetts with Richard Palgrave-46 of Great Yarmouth, Norfolk.
Richard Palgrave of Great Yarmouth (1597-1630) married Joane (Harris) [Palgrave] Young (1601-1637) and had one daughter, Ann (1626-1701), who married Nicholas Woodbury (1618-1686). His widow and daughter immigrated to Salem, Massachusetts. See: Mary Walton Ferris, Dawes-Gates Ancestral Lines, Vol. 2 page 621-623, Palgrave.
"There was still another Richard Palgrave of Great Yarmouth, co. Norfolk, a member of the Pulham Market branch of the family. His wife was one Joan Harris, whom he married by license on 24 June 1625 and had a daughter, Anne, baptized at Great Yarmouth on 29 Oct. 1626. She was probably an only child. This Richard died prior to 1637, when his widow was remarried to the Rev. John Young of Southwold. They came to Salem, Mass., in 1637, prior to 14 Aug. of that year, bringing with them Joan's daughter by her first husband, Anne Palgrave. This Anne subsequently married Nicholas Woodbury in 1651 at Salem."[7]
Moriarty goes on to point out that Richard Palgrave of Charlestown, Massachusetts arrived in 1630, part of Winthrop's Fleet, therefore could not have been the father of Ann (Palgrave) Woodbury, referenced above.[7]
"Dr." Richard Palgrave of Barnham Broom and Charlestown (1593-1651) married Ann (Unknown) (1594-1668), removed to Charlestown, MA, and had 10 children. See Anderson's The Winthrop Fleet (2012) pages 510-515, which includes an updated list of children. See also Richardson's Royal Ancestry (2013) Vol. I, pages 511-513 and Roberts' Ancestors of American Presidents (2015) for the most recent information.

Origins

It is likely that Richardson confirmed the Richard-Edward Palgrave connection via Edward's will.
Anderson states that Richard's origins are unknown[4] and Richardson, in a footnote in Royal Ancestry (2013) 1:513, quotes Anderson GMB 1373-1376:
"Moriarty discusses possible connections of this immigrant to the Palgrave family of county Norfolk, England. The most likely solution is that Richard Palgrave resided in the parishes of Wymondham and Barnham Broom in Norfolk before his migration, but the evidence for this identification remains insufficient."[1][2]
Moriarty (1948) attributes Edward Palgrave as Richard's father, stating:
"Nothing can be more probable than that Richard, the younger son of the Rev. Edward [of Barnham Broom] ... should practice his profession in the neighboring parish of Wymondham ... There can, therefore, be small doubt that Dr. Richard Palgrave of Wymondham was identical with Richard, son of the Rev. Edward of Barnham Broom, as suggested in the Palgrave Memorials."[3]

Education

This record likely belongs to the Richard of this profile: "PALGRAVE, RICHARD. Matric. pens, from Corpus Christi, Easter, 1623. Of Norfolk. B.A. 1626-7; M.A. 1630."[22]

Sources

  1. ↑ 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 1.11 1.12 1.13 1.14 1.15 1.16 1.17 1.18 1.19 1.20 1.21 1.22 1.23 1.24 1.25 Douglas Richardson. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011, vol. I, page 303, BRANDON 16, Richard Palgrave.
  2. ↑ 2.0 2.1 Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2013, vol. I, page 512-513, BRANDON 21, Richard Palgrave (info identical to MCA v.1 p.303 ).
  3. ↑ 3.0 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 G. Andrews Moriarty. "The Parentage and Ancestry of Dr. Richard Palgrave of Charlestown, Mass." in English Origins of New England Families, 1st Series, Vol. III, pages 60-72. (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., 1984). Online at Ancestry.com [$]: link (also published in NEHGR 102 (1948) 87-98).
  4. ↑ 4.00 4.01 4.02 4.03 4.04 4.05 4.06 4.07 4.08 4.09 4.10 4.11 4.12 4.13 4.14 4.15 4.16 4.17 4.18 4.19 4.20 4.21 4.22 4.23 Robert Charles Anderson. The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England: 1620-1633. 3 vols., Boston, MA: NEHGS, 1995. Online at AmericanAncestors.org [$], pages 1373-1376.
  5. ↑ 5.0 5.1 FamilySearch.org Wymondham parish record
  6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 Norfolk Record Office, ref. PD 184/1, FindMyPast - linked parish register image on FindMyPast and another image on Familysearch
  7. ↑ 7.00 7.01 7.02 7.03 7.04 7.05 7.06 7.07 7.08 7.09 7.10 7.11 7.12 7.13 7.14 7.15 7.16 7.17 7.18 7.19 7.20 7.21 G. Andrews Moriarty, "Dr. Richard Palgrave and his Family" in The American Genealogist. 1941. Online at AmericanAncestors.org [$], 18 (1941): 206-209.
  8. ↑ Norfolk: Fundenhall: St Nicholas: Parish Register, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/61b0d83df493fd42a6628108 : viewed 23 Jan 2023) baptism Maria Palgrave 25 Aug 1618
  9. ↑ 9.0 9.1 9.2 9.3 9.4 9.5 9.6 9.7 9.8 9.9 Robert C. Anderson. The Winthrop Fleet. (Boston, MA: NEHGS, 2012), pages 510-515 (not avail. online)
  10. ↑ Norfolk: Wymondham: Virgin Mary and St Thomas a Becket: Parish Register, FreeReg, (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5f8c85aaf493fd420c706391 : viewed 23 Jan 2023) baptism Benjamin Palgrave 19 Dec 1622
  11. ↑ Wymondham parish register image on Familysearch
  12. ↑ Norfolk: Wymondham: Virgin Mary and St Thomas a Becket: Parish Register, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/611f8787f493fd7a76c1a025 : viewed 23 Jan 2023) baptism Beniamin Palgrave 5 Feb 1623/24
  13. ↑ Wymondham parish register image on Familysearch
  14. ↑ Norfolk: Wymondham: Virgin Mary and St Thomas a Becket: Parish Register, FreeREG (https://www.freereg.org.uk/search_records/5f8c85ebf493fd420c7068d8 : viewed 23 Jan 2023) baptism Elizabeth Palgrave 10 Apr 1626
  15. ↑ Nathaniel B. Shurtleff, ed., Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England. Vol. III: 1644–1657. Boston: Press of William White, 1854. Online at HathiTrust, page 251.
  16. ↑ Henry Bond, M.D. Genealogies of the Families and Descendants of the Early Settlers of Watertown. Vol. I, Boston: NEHGS, 1860. Online at Archive.org, page 627
  17. ↑ Middlesex County Registry of Deeds. Vol. ___, page 47, Vol. III, page 12.
  18. ↑ Middlesex County Registry of Deeds. Vol. X, page 3.
  19. ↑ Gary Boyd Roberts. Ancestors of American Presidents. (Boston, MA: NEHGS, 2015), Richard: 265, 286, 367, 383, 509; Anna: 367, 509.
  20. ↑ 20.0 20.1 "Massachusetts, Wills and Probate Records, 1635-1991" [database on-line]. Provo, UT, USA. Ancestry.com Operations, Inc., 2015. Online (image) at Ancestry.com [$]: Middlesex Probate #16383.
  21. ↑ "A Roll of Arms" in The New England Historical and Genealogical Register. Boston, MA: New England Historic Genealogical Society, 1847-. Online at AmericanAncestors.org [$], vol. 107 (Oct 1953) page 269, #401.
  22. ↑ Alumni Cantabrigienses, Vol. III, part I. Cambridge: University Press, 1924, p. 298. Archive.org.
See also:
  • England. College of Arms, et al.. The Visitation of Norfolk In the Year 1563. Norwich: Printed by Miller and Leavins, 1895. Online at HathiTrust, pages 28 and 30.
  • Hall, Albert Harrison. "Thomas Wellington 'of Cambridge,' his Ancestors and some of his Descendants" in The Proceedings of the Cambridge Historical Society. Vol. VIII, 1913. Online page 16.
  • McCormick, Elizabeth Day and Robert Hall McCormick III, patrons, McCormick-Hamilton, Lord-Day Ancestral Lines. (pri­vately printed, 1957). Online at Archive.org, pages 797-803.
  • Moriarty, G. Andrews. "The Palgrave Descent from the Plantagenets" in The American Genealogist, vol. 25 (1949) 24-26. Online at American Ancestors.org [$].
  • Palmer, Charles John, ed. The Palgrave Family Memorials. (Norwich: Miller & Leavins, 1878). Online at Google Books.
  • Pope, Charles Henry. The Pioneers of Massachusetts. (Boston, C.H. Pope, 1900). Online at Archive.org, page 341.
  • Roberts, Gary Boyd. Notable Kin, Vol. 1. (Santa Clarita, CA: Carl Boyer III, 1998), page 120. Not available online.
  • Weis, Frederick Lewis, Walter Lee Sheppard, William Ryland Beall, Kaleen E. Beall. Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists who Came to America Before 1700. (Genealogical Publishing Company, 2004). Online at Google Books, page 22: Line 15.
  • Wyman, Thomas Bellows. The Genealogies and Estates of Charlestown. (Boston : D. Clapp, 1879). Online at Archive.org page 724: Richard Palgrave.
  • Tucker, Stephen, and Charles John Palmer, et al. Palgrave Family Memorials. Norwich: Printed by Miller and Leavins, 1878, p. 32. HathiTrust. (father=Edward)

Acknowledgements

Magna Carta Project

This profile was reviewed/updated for the Magna Carta Project 5-Star team on 19 May 2020 by Thiessen-117.
Richard Palgrave MD is listed in Magna Carta Ancestry, volume I, pages xxiii-xxix, "List of Colonial Immigrants" as a Gateway Ancestor. Richard Palgrave is in a Richardson-documented trail to Magna Carta Surety Baron Roger Bigod (vol. I, pages 297-303 BRANDON). Richard Palgrave MD has also been identified as the Gateway in trails to other surety barons, including: Robert de Vere, Saher de Quincy, Hugh le Bigod, Richard de Clare, Gilbert de Clare and John de Lacy. All these trails were badged on 19 March 2021. See the Magna Carta Trails section of the profile of Edward Palgrave to view the profiles in these trails.
See Base Camp for more information about identified Magna Carta trails and their status. See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail".




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Ashley-1950 Chase Ashley
I question whether the prefix "Dr" is appropriate. I don't think that prefix was used in that time period. and I question whether it was ever used for Richard while he was alive. Unless someone can produce a primary record for him that refers to him as Dr Palgrave or Doctor Palgrave, I think it should be deleted.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thiessen-117 Traci Thiessen
The prefix was added to clear confusion between the 2 Richard Palgraves mentioned under "disambiguation" and in research notes. He is also referred to as Dr in some sources (or w/suffix physician). In my opinion, in this case, the prefix is useful.
posted by Traci Thiessen
Ashley-1950 Chase Ashley
Using a prefix that was not used for the person during his lifetime is inconsistent with the wikitree style guide. I don't think we are supposed to violate that policy for disambiguation anymore than should violate that policy to use II, III, IV etc. in the suffix field for that purpose.
posted by Chase Ashley
Thiessen-117 Traci Thiessen
Chase, I disagree. Again, he is called "Dr." or "physician" in several texts cited above. I'm aware the that prefix dr. wasn't widely used at the time. Also, there is a difference between using a prefix found in sources and personal numbering systems as suffixes.
posted by Traci Thiessen
Ashley-1950 Chase Ashley
I'm not going to change it, since I haven't been a contributor to this profile, but I think it's clearly inconsistent with WT style to use Dr if that prefix wasn't used for him during his lifetime. I haven't checked, but I strongly suspect he was only referred to as Dr in secondary texts written long after his time.
posted by Chase Ashley
Cochoit-2 Joe Cochoit
So this would be another example of where rigid adherence WT style guidelines is nonsensical. You will be hard pressed to find to find any reference to this person where he is not called Dr. Richard Palgrave or Richard Palgrave, physician. To not call him "Dr." puts WT out of step with the entire rest of the genealogical world, and would only add confusion. If you don't call him "Dr." then you have to call him Richard Palgrave, practitioner of physick or Mr. Richard Palgrave, phisition. Neither of these suffixes seem preferable to just calling him Dr. like every other source.
posted by Joe Cochoit
Cayley-55 Michael Cayley
I would fully support retaining Dr in the prefix field. It makes every sense as Joe has said. As a Leader if the Magna Carta Project, which co-manages this profile, I would want to add Dr back if anyone removed it.
posted by Michael Cayley
edited by Michael Cayley
Ashley-1950 Chase Ashley
Genealogy books adopt all sorts of nicknames for ancestors in order to help distinguish them. They also generally use the modern spelling of their surname even if that spelling was never used in contemporary records for the person. We are, however, not supposed to use the person's name as it is commonly referred to in modern sources, but as it was used at the time. He needs no prefix or suffix to refer to his occupation anymore than he would if he was a carpenter.
posted by Chase Ashley
Larocque-466 Darrell Larocque
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posted by Darrell Larocque
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Cayley-55 Michael Cayley
I suggest we leave Chase to disagree with others of us who have commented, and not discuss this further on this profile.
posted by Michael Cayley
Larocque-466 Darrell Larocque
I deleted it and won't comment further. Thanks Michael.
posted by Darrell Larocque
Larocque-466 Darrell Larocque
The identification of learned men serving as physicians should be given the recognition it deserves. From what I have seen, he served the community as a physician and to strip the profile of Dr. is a mistake.

"Dr. John A. Raach points out that most New Englanders immigrated from English counties, such as Norfolk, Suffolk, and Essex, with a high concentration of M.D.’s and men with other types of formal training. The first groups coming to New England sought to avoid the disaster of Jamestown by including individuals with skills necessary for a successful community, like male and female practitioners who would provide health care for a rural, working-class society. And in an environment that encouraged multiple careers, virtually all doctors were engaged also in other income-producing activity."

https://www.colonialsociety.org/node/1200

posted by Darrell Larocque
Ashley-1950 Chase Ashley
Using a prefix that was not used for the person during his lifetime is inconsistent with the wikitree style guide.
posted by Chase Ashley
Larocque-466 Darrell Larocque
I agree with Traci and her explanation above and her reference of included sources. The entire wiki based experience has always been based on consensus and I feel confident that there will be enough consensus to favor retaining Dr. for this profile and I look forward to others thoughts on this matter.
posted by Darrell Larocque
edited by Darrell Larocque
Bonnet-244 Marcia (Bonnet) Benjamin
And the second Benjamin: <ref>

England, Norfolk, Parish ...Record Office), 1510-1997: "England, Norfolk, Parish ...Record Office), 1510-1997"

Image path: England, Norfolk, Parish Registers (County Record Office), 1510-1997 > Wymondham > Baptisms > 1615-1685 > image 24 of 112

FamilySearch Image: S3HT-69HX-JD (accessed 30 January 2023) </ref>

posted by Marcia (Bonnet) Benjamin
Cayley-55 Michael Cayley
Thanks, I have added a citation
posted by Michael Cayley
Bonnet-244 Marcia (Bonnet) Benjamin
Found bapt. records for one of the Benjamins: <ref>

England, Norfolk, Parish ...Record Office), 1510-1997: "England, Norfolk, Parish ...Record Office), 1510-1997"

Image path: England, Norfolk, Parish Registers (County Record Office), 1510-1997 > Wymondham > Baptisms > 1615-1685 > image 21 of 112

FamilySearch Image: S3HT-69HN-PP (accessed 30 January 2023) </ref>

posted by Marcia (Bonnet) Benjamin
Cayley-55 Michael Cayley
Thanks, I have added a citation
posted by Michael Cayley
Bonnet-244 Marcia (Bonnet) Benjamin
I found Hannah's bapt record: <ref>

England, Norfolk, Parish ...Record Office), 1510-1997: "England, Norfolk, Parish ...Record Office), 1510-1997"

Image path: England, Norfolk, Parish Registers (County Record Office), 1510-1997 > Wymondham > Baptisms > 1615-1685 > image 32 of 112

FamilySearch Image: S3HT-69HF-8G (accessed 23 January 2023) </ref> Richard is referred to as "practiotioner in Phisicke" again.

posted by Marcia (Bonnet) Benjamin
Cayley-55 Michael Cayley
Thanks. I have added the source to the bio, along with a transcript on FindMyPast which gives the Norfolk Record Office's own reference as well as a link to another image of the register, and also added slightly to an earlier part of the bio.
posted by Michael Cayley
Bonnet-244 Marcia (Bonnet) Benjamin
I found it while looking for something else. I'm glad it was useful!
posted by Marcia (Bonnet) Benjamin
Thiessen-117 Traci Thiessen
The 4 images attached are copied from an Ancestry.com collection and probably should not be shared on WikiTree. I've added citations and links to same in the biography ....
posted by Traci Thiessen
Galligan-43 Alice (Galligan) Glassen
Did you do a google search first on the pictures? Sometimes there are some floating around. I’ll ck eta I looked and found the same ones, they were from here though;) To be honest I’ve seen pictures from Ancestry on other pages here. Especially for documentation. I’m sure they exist in other places as well
posted by Alice (Galligan) Glassen
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Smith-32867 Jillaine Smith
Alice, people regularly upload images from Ancestry.com but it's a violation of Ancestry's terms of use. They need to be removed when we find them. Thanks.
posted by Jillaine Smith
Galligan-43 Alice (Galligan) Glassen
I tried looking online but couldn’t find anything. Every now and then you will find something. I’ll keep an eye out. I’ve been Getting the postings through my email.
posted by Alice (Galligan) Glassen
Thiessen-117 Traci Thiessen
Thanks Jillaine. I'll remove the images.
posted by Traci Thiessen
Aldrich-908 Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
thanks Liz. The merge has been proposed.
posted by Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Magna Carta Project defers to PGM - Anna Unknown-42277 is a PGM profile & while Richard is Magna Carta profile, his wife is not (he's a Richardson-document Gateway Ancestor; she isn't).

Cheers, Liz

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Aldrich-908 Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
According to "Great Migration Begins" Richard Palgrave had only 1 wife and her name was Anne, (surname unknown.)

The two Anna's here should be merged into Unknown-42277.

Will a PM please see to this merge? or perhaps someone from Magna Carta?

https://www.americanancestors.org/databases/great-migration-begins-immigrants-to-ne-1620-1633-vols-i-iii/image?pageName=1375&volumeId=12107&rId=23895734

posted by Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
Aldrich-908 Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
yes, that's the book, Liz. I regret that I didn't tell you there was no online copy... saved you valuable time if I had.

I have a copy in my possession; but was hesitant to make changes because of Magna Carta trail pending.

Perhaps research notes at the bottom, with inline citation would be good? You tell me. thanks.

posted by Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
I didn't find an online copy, but I believe the following is the publication Cheryl is referring to:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Abandoning-America-Life-stories-early-England/dp/1843838176

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Aldrich-908 Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
see research about his wife "Anne Palgrave" on page 227 of "Abandoning America" by Moore.
posted by Cheryl (Aldrich) Skordahl
Noland-165 Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Hi! The goal of the Magna Carta Project is that each Gateway Ancestor documented by Douglas Richardson in his Magna Carta Ancestry be in a project-approved trail to a surety baron. To help us reach that goal, the project is adding itself as a manager to all Richardson-documented Gateway Ancestors. Since the project's scope ends with the Gateway and any children covered by Richardson, we frequently co-manage a Gateway's profile with another project (such as Puritan Great Migration).

Cheers, Liz ~ Magna Carta Project

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Martin-17283 Jeffrey Martin
Greetings,

I uploaded Dr. Richard's will and inventory as well as added the transcription.

Enjoy!

JM

posted by Jeffrey Martin
Heather Takahashi
Anna (Mrs. Richard Palgrave) was the sister of my 8th great grandmother Mary (Mrs. Robert Rolleston) of Stepney, Middlesex, England. Mary was also a dissenter. The issue: I haven't been able to determine Mary Rolleston's maiden name. I was hoping I'd be able to figure it out by determining her sister Anna's maiden name, but it looks like there is a lot of controversy on the subject. I'd value any guidance. I also have Mary Rolleston's will and more information on the Rolleston family if anyone is interested. She was ancestress of a distinguished family of Hampshire, UK.
posted by Heather Takahashi
Barb Teague
Regarding the possibility of Anna "Hooker" being the wife of Richard Palgrave, this is highly unlikely.

According The Register, Vol XCVII pp 10-11, "The Alcocks of Roxbury, Mass" by Moriarty, in about 1626 George Alcock married [Anne] Hooker, who died in the first winter of 1630 (i.e. the first winter after their arrival in Massachusetts). The profile for Thomas Hooker in GMB also names George Alcock as the husband of his sister [Anne].

Since their son John married Richard Palgrave's daughter Sarah, it is possible that someone got Anna ? Palgrave mixed up with Anne Hooker Alcock. I cannot find reference to a maiden name for Anna Palgrave in any of my Douglas Richardson references.

posted by Barb Teague

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