John Moore
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John Moore (abt. 1603 - 1677)

Deacon John Moore
Born about in Englandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married [date unknown] [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 74 in Windsor, Hartford, Connecticutmap
Profile last modified | Created 28 Nov 2010
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The Puritan Great Migration.
John Moore migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See Great Migration Begins, by R. C. Anderson, Vol. 2, p. 1276)
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Disputed Origins

In 1926 Ernest Flagg claimed Deacon John Moore was son of this Thomas Moore,[1] Robert Charles Anderson in 1995 stated that there is no evidence that Thomas Moore was ever married or had children and that Thomas Moore was probably the brother, not the father of Deacon John Moore. [2] Other sources claim his mother was Elizabeth or Abigail Younge. Anderson says instead:

John Moore was probably brother of Thomas Moore of Dorchester and Windsor. They appear together as witnesses to the nuncupative will of John Russell on 3 September 1633 [MBCR 1:153]. Most of the parcels of land in Windsor granted to John Moore were adjacent to parcels granted to Thomas Moore.

Anderson also adds:

"A John Moore and a Thomas Moore were admitted as freeman on 18 May 1631, and another John Moore on 2 July 1632. The names John Moore and Thomas Moore appear in the 1630s in both Dorchester and Salem...[2]

He has been detached from any parents. Please use G2G to discuss evidence for his origins. Thank you.

Disputed Wife

Anderson points out that his wife's first and last name are both unknown:

"The wife of John Moore is generally given as 'Abigail,' but in the records maintained by Matthew Grant she is always called 'Deacon More's wife.' In his listing of the children of Deacon John Moore, Grant at first omitted the daughter Abigail, and then placed her on a line above John Moore's name, which may have led some genealogist in the past to think that this was the name of his wife. [Grant 50]"

Biography

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John and his wife emigrated in 1630, settling initially in Dorchester, MA, but removing to Windsor, CT by 1638.

John was appointed Dorchester fence-viewer on 24 May 1634 and 16 January 1636/7 : and selectman on 8 November 1637.

He became a woodworker.

He was known for using the foliated vine design, which depicts vines and blossoms carved in shallow relief with flat surfaces. In the sixteenth and seventeenth centuries, chests were important pieces of furniture that stood in the public areas of the house. Chests or coffer were general purpose storage units but they were also used for seating and even for sleeping on. All had locks to ensure privacy and security in the crowded households of the period. Some were used for the storage of household goods, but others were personal: most members of the household had their own coffers for their own belongings. Some have initials or names on them to identify their owners.

He dealt largely in real estate and manufactured pike heads, farmed and built a ferry about 1671. He contributed 6s. 6d. to the Connecticut Fund for Relief of Poor in other Colonies.

John Moore lived near his brother Thomas Moore Most of the parcels of land in Windsor granted to John Moore were adjacent to parcels ranted to Thomas Moore. John had the lot on Broad Street Green, Windsor, where he built the Moore house which was presented (so says tradition) to his son John as a set-out on his marriage day, A.D. 1690.

He was Deputy from Windsor to the Connecticut General Court many times . He was made deputy governor of Connecticut under John Winthrop.

On 11 Jan 1651, John Moore was ordained a deacon.

He died in Windsor, Connecticut 18 Sep 1677.[2][citing Grant 50]

His death is given in the Windsor town records as 18 Sep 1677.[3]
He was buried on 19 Sep 1677.[3]

Last Will & Testament

Dated 14 Sep 1677; administration granted 6 Dec 1677:[2][ citing Manwaring 1:221]
  • to his dear wife...
  • to her children...
  • to my son John a double portion
  • my other children, that is , my four daughters...

Moore, John, Windsor. Invt 48 9pounds -04-07. Taken 17 September, 1677 by Benjamin Newbery, Daniel Clarke, Return Strong, Josiah Elsworth. Dictated. Will dated 14 september, 1677: Deacon John Moore being at this prsent his memory & understanding sound though under present sickness, did declare with his own mouth in the prsence of his wife, Robert Hayward & John Moore, Nath. Loomys & John Loomys, that it was his will as followeth: Imprs. He did will to his deare wife the product & improvement of his whole estate, houseing, Lands & Moveables, so long as She Lives, & fifty pownds to her own dispose to her children or at her discretion at her death; & my will is that the estate that remayns after her death as aforesayd shall be disposed as followeth: to my son John a double portion, & my will is my son shall have all my Land, he paying what his double portion doe not reach to my other children, unto whom, that is, to my four daughters, I doe will the remaynder of my estate in equal proportion. Witness our hands: Robert Haywood, John Loomys[4]

Adms. to John Moore. Jacob (John? Jacob Drake seems an error of the Recorder, but was so written) Drake sen. personally appeared in Court and declared it to be his will& Desire that the above written Will should stand as the Will of his deceased Father, Attest: Benjamin Newbery.

John Moore, Nathaniel Loomis, Thomas Bissell & Nathaniel Bissell. In Court 6 December 1677, they did acknowledge that they in their own and their wives behalf did acquiesce in and approve of the Dispose of the estate of Deacon John Moore as it is a expressed by him and written as above. Attest: John Allyn, secretary[5]

Children

  1. Hannah, b abt 1628; m in Windsor 30 Nov 1648 John Drake.
  2. Elizabeth, b abt 1635; m in Windsor 24 or 27 Nov 1653 Nathaniel Loomis
  3. Thomas, b abt 1637; nfr
  4. Abigail, b Windsor 14 Feb 1639/40; m in Windsor 11 Oct 1655 Thomas Bissell.
  5. Mindwell, b Windsor 10 Jul 1643; m in Windsor 25 Sep 1662 Nathaniel Bissell
  6. John, b Windsor 5 Dec 1645; m1 Windsor 21 Sep 1664 Hannah Goffe; m2 17 Dec 1701 Martha Farnsworth; m3 Mary ____.

Sources

  1. Ernest Flag. Genealogical Notes on the Founding of New England, My Ancestors' Part in that Undertaking p 302 (n.p 1926; rpt. Baltimore, MD. 1973). link
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 Robert Charles Anderson, The Great Migration Begins: Immigrants to New England 1620-1633. Boston, MA: NEHGS, 1995; pg. 1277. Available on AmericanAncestors.org (subscription).
  3. 3.0 3.1 Some Early Records and Documents of and Relating to the Town of Windsor Connecticut, 1639-1703. Hartford, CT: Hartford Connecticut Historical Society, 1930. p. 50 (image 54), available on FamilySearch.org.
  4. Early CT Probate Records, Page 195
  5. Connecticut Court record, Page 165 - 6 December, 1677

See also: In 2016, Moore-5375. Moore-5380, and Moore-5381, were all disconnected from Deacon John Moore-1416; and all are now disconnected profiles without parents.





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I checked in WIKItree for any Benjamin Newbery with wife Mary and all the Benjamin Newbery's had different wives; none had a Mary. So all these posts with Mary Moore in ancestry are likely incorrect. Or rather they were all likely copied from one incorrect post. Thomas Moore and three other persons are listed as dying in "45 year," which may mean "1645". Since this was before Andrew was born in 1649 it would appear that Thomas could not be his father, unless the 1649 dob was at least 4 years off. There were three other persons listed as dying in "45 year" in the Windsor early records. I could only find one in ancestry, a Mrs. Roger Williams who died in 1645 as "his first wife." This cannot be the famous Roger Williams. A bio states the famous RW m 15 December 1629, to MARY BARNARD and he moved by 1638 to Providence RI where he had a child named "Providence" and later three other children there. Roger William's wife Mary d in 1676. The Roger Williams in Windsor has a WIKItree page; he was b. 1610 in Wotton under Edge, Gloucestershire, England. He lived mostly in Dorchester, where a Thomas and John Moore are reported also. In 1635 he was in both Dorchester and Windsor. He m 2) 1749 to Lydia Bates in Dorchester. Could he or his first wife have been related to John or Thomas Moore? Could his wife have been visiting the Moores in Windsor when she and Thomas Moore both died in 1745?
posted by Richard Bisbee
edited by Richard Bisbee
The will of John states he had four (living) daughters. The spouses of four are listed in the administration that is transcribed on this site. However, daughter Mary b. 1647 (the youngest) is omitted in the listing of the children. She was married to Benjamin Newbery who is listed in the administration. John Drake, the husband of Hannah is not listed. This means that Hannah b. 1628 was not his daughter. She was born well before the real eldest child Elizabeth in 1635. Hannah was likely John's niece. Andrew Moore of Windsor, b. 1649 Windsor was possibly an illegitimate s/o Hannah, conceived before her marriage to John Drake in 1648 but born just after her marriage.
posted by Richard Bisbee
Hi Richard. Its an intriguing theory. But looking at the original document, there appear to be two sections. One, John Drake attesting to the validity of the will "of his deceased father." It looks to me that Benjamin Newbury's name only appears on the document as a witness to his statement. See Ancestry Sharing Link

The other names of the sons/sons-in-law appear in a separate section.

posted by M Cole
edited by M Cole
It is not my theory that Benjamin Newbury was married to Mary Moore though. That was stated by someone else. Another post by one Cherrie Barrow stated that one "Captain Newbury" married Andrew and Sarah Moore. Would the Captain have been Benjamin? Perhaps it was Mary and Andrew who were siblings then, and possibly by John's brother Thomas. I notice in the Appendix to The History of Simsbury and Ganby by Phelps that he lists Andrew with John's family implying they were related, but not stating exactly how.
posted by Richard Bisbee
I've yet to see one of the Lewis Publ Books such as Gen & Pers. Hist. of Western PA, ever list a source and they are old material. See disputed origins.
posted by Anne B
Does GPHWP give primary sources for its information on this?
posted by T Stanton
Appears his father was Thomas Moore based on new source added, Genealogical and Personal History of Western Pennsylvania.

"Mindwell Moore, born July 10, 1643, was a granddaughter of Thomas Moore, and daughter of Deacon John Moore, who came from England in 1630, and died September 18, 1677. His wife's name was Abigail."

posted by Anonymous Nagel
Anderson's statement that Thomas and John Moore were witnesses to John Russell's will and had adjacent plots of land could equally apply to them being father & son as to being brothers. It is highly probable that Thomas was the father of John for the following reasons:-

1. Thomas Moore owned a ship in Poole in 1591 (from {JSydnmPoole} page 357 refers to a survey of 1591 which lists, among others:- 18. The Caruell, 025 tonnes, 2 falcons (Pieces of ordinances), owner Thomas Mores.), so Thomas probably born before 1570. In which case he would be at least 65 when in Windsor, possibly why he was not married with young children 2. John died 32 years after Thomas 3. Thomas did not sign his name on the will, only "made his mark", John could write and was a Deacon, suggesting he was educated; the ship that Thomas owned was a fishing vessel so he could probably afford to educate his son. 4. The parish records for the village of Sturminster Marshall (just 8 miles N of Poole) show the baptism of John Moore on 4 Oct 1607, the father was Thomas Moore. 5. Thomas was not a Dorchester land grantee, nor an early Windsor Settler; John Moore and Thomas Dewey were 6. Only John is on the Mary & John passenger list 7. John's first born son was a Thomas, the tradition is usually that the first born is named after the father, not a brother.

Regards

posted by Terry Dewey
Hi Terry,

How can we advance this so that it receives the most complete collaboration exposure? G2G? --Gene

posted by GeneJ X
Hi Gene,

Although I joined WikiTree back in 2016 I only recently decided that I should share my extensive research findings more widely, and WikiTree seems an excellent way of achieving this, so I am very much the 'newbie' here.

I have looked at G2G, but it seemed to be more of a question/answer forum; I tried a search on 'John Moore', but just ended up with a long list of entries of no relevance. I had thought of msging the Profile Manager(s) for John Moore and just jump in with my research finding (I have lots more, e.g. on John Russell, Thomas Dewey etc.). Perhaps I should just introduce myself to the Profile Managers of the PGM project and see if I can grab their attention. My ultimate aim is to get more of my research findings 'approved' and then for the profiles to be updated; the problem is the findings are all interlinked. The example above on John Moore links in with his sister Mary Moore, who is Thomas Dewey The Settler's mother and the top of my DNA 'tree' matching me up with descendants of the early settlers of Windsor CT!

Any suggestions from you as to my best approach would be much appreciated, regards, Terry

posted by Terry Dewey
Liz's article gives a different birth date.
posted by Michael Stills
Here's an article about him from the Windsor CT Historical Society: https://windsorhistoricalsociety.org/deacon-john-moore-community-craftsman/
posted by Liz Marshall
Moore-44874 and Moore-1416 appear to represent the same person because: Parents should be disconnected
posted by Anne B
Moore-6842 and Moore-1416 appear to represent the same person because: same birth, children
posted by Cari (Ebert) Starosta
Moore-30330 and Moore-6842 appear to represent the same person because: biography on -30330 shows the same dates for birth and death as are on the other profile. Merge for fathers has been proposed, both men are attached to the same wife
posted by Robin Lee
Moore-30330 and Moore-6842 are not ready to be merged because: Unsure of dates and wife.
posted by Linda Fauvelle
Moore-30330 and Moore-6842 appear to represent the same person because: Duplicate: The wife is Unknown nor Abigail Pinney and is being merged. The clue is that they are both father of Abigail Moore Bissell. By the way no middle name
posted by Anne B

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