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Miriam (Ingram) Short (1642 - 1682)

Miriam Short formerly Ingram
Born in Gatton, Sussex, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Wife of — married 1662 in Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 40 in aboard the Welcome, Atlantic Oceanmap
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Research Note

Adam Short has been disproved as the husband of Miriam Ingram. Please refer to the sources cited in the profile.

Miriam Ingram's birth origin is questionable. The two seconday sources that reference this are McCracken who states that "Isaac Ingram was from Gatton, Surrey, just north of the Sussex border." vs. Tepper and Balderston who states "of Kingsbury, Warwickshire, who in 1663 was presented in the Episcopal Visitation for not attending church". The records that have been found so far are indexes. Primary records need to be located to determine where Miriam was from in England.

There is a marriage record that is indexed from North Mundham, Sussex, England for Abell Ingram and Miriam Chatfield on 14 May 1633.[1]

Biography

Miriam Ingram Short, daughter of Abell Ingram and Miriam Chatfield, was born about 1642 in Gatton, Surrey.[citation needed]

She married Henry Short in 1664 in Sussex, England.[citation needed]

Miriam and her children Miriam, Anne and Adam are included among the approved ancestors for membership in the Welcome Society.[2]

"The reason for thinking that Miriam Short the elder, mother of the other three Shorts, was on the vessel is found in Ingram's will where she is described as 'late deceased,' a phrase peculiarly appropriate if she had started the voyage and then succumbed to the smallpox. She may well have been the Miriam Short, Quaker, of Kingsbury, Warwickshire, who in 1663 was presented in the Episcopal Visitation for not attending church."[3]

Miriam and Henry are named as parents at the baptism of their daughter Miriam Short on May 10, 1664 and their son Adam on May 30, 1666 in Ford, Sussex, England.[4][5]

From the New World Immigrants: A Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists on page 261 we find this passage about Miriam.[6][7]

"Isaac Ingram (37) was from Gatton, Surrey, just north of the Sussex border. His is the last of four wills made on the Welcome that we possess; its date is September 26. Unmarried, he left £10 to each of three children - Adam, Miriam, and Anne - of his deceased sister, Miriam Short. He also left him all the goods he had with him on the Welcome. This certainly would imply that they were on the ship with him, for what good would household possessions and food in Pennsylvania be to three young people in England? Miriam was certainly onboard the Welcome, for she married another passenger, George Thompson, a few months after the ship arrived."


Sources

  1. "England, Sussex, Parish Registers 1538-1910," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJD6-RDSN : accessed 21 April 2015), Abell Ingram and Miriam Chatfeilde, Marriage, North Mundham, North Mundham, Sussex, England, 14 May 1633; citing 00380, West Sussex County Record Office, Chichester; FHL microfilm 2,197,971.
  2. "Ancestors Approved Memberships." The Welcome Society of Pennsylvania. Accessed October 07, 2018. https://www.welcomesociety.org/ancestors-approved-memberships.html.
  3. McCracken, George E. The Welcome Claimants Proved, Disproved and Doubtful with an Account of Some of Their Descendants. (Baltimore, Genealogical Pub. Co, 1970), 473
  4. England: Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. Online database. AmericanAncestors.org. New England Historic Genealogical Society, 2014. (Original index: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975. FamilySearch, 2014.)
    Name Miriam SHOART
    Birth 1664
    Location
    Original Text
    Record Type Birth
    Father Henry Shoart
    Mother Miriam
    Gender Female
    Christening Place FORD,SUSSEX,ENGLAND
    Christening Date 10 May 1664
    Film No. 0919118, 0416748, 416755
    Page 37173898
    https://www.americanancestors.org/DB543/rd/373590992
  5. "England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N5FR-P8Z : 11 February 2018, Adam Shoart, 30 May 1666); citing , index based upon data collected by the Genealogical Society of Utah, Salt Lake City; FHL microfilm 919,118, 416,748, 416,755.
    Name Adam Shoart
    Gender Male
    Christening Date 30 May 1666
    Christening Date (Original) 30 MAY 1666
    Christening Place FORD,SUSSEX,ENGLAND
    Father's Name Henry Shoart
    Mother's Name Miriam
  6. Tepper, Michael. "The Real Welcome Passengers". New World Immigrants: A Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists and Associated Data from Periodical Literature. Vol. 1. Baltimore, 1980. pg. 261. https://www.ancestry.com/interactive/48115/NewWorldImmigrantsI-000501-261/205200
  7. Balderston, Marion. "The Real "Welcome" Passengers." Huntington Library Quarterly 26, no. 1 (1962): 31-56. doi:10.2307/3816843.

See also:

  • England, Select Births and Christenings, 1538-1975 Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.
  • U.S. and Canada, Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc
  • U.S. and International Marriage Records, 1560-1900 Yates Publishing Publication: Ancestry.com Operations Inc
  • Global, Find A Grave Index for Burials at Sea and other Select Burial Locations, 1300s-Current Ancestry.com Publication: Ancestry.com Operations, Inc.




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That tracks. I was finding potentially relevant records in North Mundham.
posted by T Stanton
The record is referenced on her parents profiles... https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QJD6-RDSN

It is another index but this one is from the West Sussex City Council. It says her parents married in North Mundham, Sussex, England. Just another fact to add.

posted by Caryl (Short) Ruckert
Good point. Reading. McCracken vs. Tepper and Balderston.."Isaac Ingram was from Gatton, Surrey just north of the Sussex border." and "of Kingsbury, Warwickshire". I am not sure what we can learn without any primary records to examine.
posted by Caryl (Short) Ruckert
How is the comment of McCracken saying she may have been of Kingsbury, Warwick resolved with Tepper and Balderston? The only place I have found the 1664 and 1666 Sussex christenings is Family Search. These don't come up in available online public records in UK or at Find My Past.
posted by T Stanton
Adam was born to Henry and Miriam Short (see citations in profile). Their daughter Miriam is also baptized naming Henry and Miriam as parents. We don't have a record for Anne but all three Short children (Miriam, Anne and Adam) are named in Isaac Ingram's will that was made on board the Welcome. (see sources in profile).
posted by Caryl (Short) Ruckert
Should the child Adam Short be removed as well?
posted by Maggie N.
No objections to removing Adam Short as a husband.
posted by Maggie N.
There is no evidence that Miriam married Adam Short. However, there is evidence in this profile that she married Henry Short. I am disconnecting Adam Short as her husband. Any objections?
posted by Caryl (Short) Ruckert
Hi Christa,

Our ancestor Miriam Short is my 9th great grandmother. Please add me to the trusted list. Thanks,

Caryl

posted by Caryl (Short) Ruckert
On the following website, it lists her dob as 1642: http://gw.geneanet.org/chatfhs?langfr&pzcolin+john&nzchatfield&ocz0&pmiriam&ningram&oc0&typetree
posted by Darlene Bora

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