The 1880 census lists her as "Allas Housur," and also as the daughter of Finley Allison Houser (1812-1898) and Mary A. "Polly" (Todd) Houser (abt.1820-abt.1887). There are some problems with this census listing. On the line below Alice, there is a 2-year-old Elizza Snow, who is listed as being the divorced cook in the household. Additionally, Finley and his wife are listed in the same household as Henry "Kennida," who is black. It would be unusual -- but not impossible -- for Finley and his family to be residing in Henry's household in 1880.[1]
Next door to the "Housurs" was the household of John and "Millitia" Finney, and their household included 50-year-old "Eveline" Spears (her first name might start with a P -- it's hard to read).
The surnames of Finney and Spears seem to be somehow connected to Alice, according to the Find-a-Grave memorial that claims that her mother was "Aurena Marinda Spears Finney Clemmons."[2]
With the uncertainty about her relationship to Finley and Mary, I've marked her relationship to them as "uncertain" until/unless more information can be found. -- Fiscus-32 20:41, 1 April 2023 (UTC)
There is a death record for an Alice Kilburn who was born on 31 Jul 1865 to Finley Hauner or Havner [sic] who was born in Virginia (the handwriting on the record is not clear). Her mother's name was transcribed as Rendy Spears, and she was born in Tennessee. Alice was born in Tennessee, and she died in Lawrence County, Tennessee on 31 Dec 1943. Her husband's name was Allen Kilburn, and he was b. ca. 1855.[3]
Alice Finney married Allen Kilburn in Lawrence County, Tennessee on 19 Jul 1881. She would have been just shy of 16 years old if this is the same person.[4] The bondsman for Alice was J.J. Polk, and the year on the image was mistranscribed as 1887 rather than 1881. The year on the other pages of the marriage documents shows as 1881.[5]
All of the information above provides little clarity about who her parents were:
Why did she give her last name as "Finney" on her marriage record?
Why was Finley Hauser (Hauver/Hauner) listed as her father on her death record?
Where was she in 1870?
Sources
↑ "United States Census, 1880," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MD7G-3F3 : 15 July 2017), Allas Housur in household of Filly A Housur, District 6, Lawrence, Tennessee, United States; citing enumeration district ED 108, sheet 252D, NARA microfilm publication T9 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), roll 1266; FHL microfilm 1,255,266.
↑Death:
"Tennessee, U.S., Death Records, 1908-1965"
Tennessee State Library and Archives; Nashville, Tennessee; Tennessee Death Records, 1908-1958; Roll Number: 11 Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 2376 #1187650 (accessed 1 April 2023)
Alice Kilburn death 31 Dec 1943 (born 31 Jul 1865), daughter of Finley Harver & Rendy Spears, in Lawrence, Tennessee, USA.
↑Marriage:
"Tennessee, U.S., Compiled Marriages, 1851-1900"
Dodd, Jordan R comp.. Tennessee, Marriages, 1851-1900. See extended description for original data sources listed by county Ancestry Record 4125 #1083842 (accessed 1 April 2023)
Alice Finney marriage to Allen Kilburn on 19 Jul 1881 in Lawrence, Tennessee.
↑Marriage:
"Tennessee, U.S., Marriage Records, 1780-2002"
Tennessee State Library and Archives; Nashville, TN, USA; Tennessee State Marriages, 1780-2002 Ancestry Sharing Link - Ancestry Record 1169 #6126089 (accessed 1 April 2023)
Alice Fenney marriage to Allen Kilburn on 13 Jul 1887 in Lawrence, Tennessee, USA.
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I guess I should comment since I did touch this one earlier. :-) I assumed at the time that the Rendy on the death cert was short for Arinda (though I briefly toyed with Purdy), which I have seen before. I would say that the Finley Houser on that is clear, looking at the other lettering on the cert for comparison. Anyway, nothing to contribute, just wanted to own up to any mistakes I might have made here.
No worries! There seems to be a lot of confusing information flying around about Alice and who's daughter she was, who she married, etc. Maybe if we all put our heads together and pool our information and thoughts here, we'll eventually get it worked out. :-)
There are no sources or anything on that memorial, so I'm not sure where the connection to Finley Houser came from. I'm going to do some searching for records using the info there, though, and see what I come up with. Hopefully, I can find Alice in the 1870 Census and see who she was living with.
Good of you to be takiing the time to do all this. I wouldn't know where to begin. I was surprised you had the research/sources for Alice from before. if I may ask, how did you do that? I tend to forget what I've worked on a week later or the next day. Do you have a program that you enter everything in?
Every profile has a change log -- if you click the "Changes" tab up above, you can see all of the changes that have been made to Alice's profile. If you click the link for each of the details in the change log, you can actually see what was changed. So, I just walked back through the changes, found where the Research Notes I'd entered had been removed, and copied them so I could paste them back into the profile. :-)
I've updated her Research Notes again -- wow. This is very confusing. I have a feeling she may have been working for the Housers, but her father was really a Finney. The information on Find-a-Grave is even more confusing.
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No worries! There seems to be a lot of confusing information flying around about Alice and who's daughter she was, who she married, etc. Maybe if we all put our heads together and pool our information and thoughts here, we'll eventually get it worked out. :-)
Julie
I think I found the original source for the information on this profile. There is a Find-a-Grave memorial for Alice Eddy Houser Kilburn here: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/16265269/alice-eddy-kilburn
There are no sources or anything on that memorial, so I'm not sure where the connection to Finley Houser came from. I'm going to do some searching for records using the info there, though, and see what I come up with. Hopefully, I can find Alice in the 1870 Census and see who she was living with.
Julie
Good of you to be takiing the time to do all this. I wouldn't know where to begin. I was surprised you had the research/sources for Alice from before. if I may ask, how did you do that? I tend to forget what I've worked on a week later or the next day. Do you have a program that you enter everything in?
thanks again for what you do Beth
Every profile has a change log -- if you click the "Changes" tab up above, you can see all of the changes that have been made to Alice's profile. If you click the link for each of the details in the change log, you can actually see what was changed. So, I just walked back through the changes, found where the Research Notes I'd entered had been removed, and copied them so I could paste them back into the profile. :-)
I've updated her Research Notes again -- wow. This is very confusing. I have a feeling she may have been working for the Housers, but her father was really a Finney. The information on Find-a-Grave is even more confusing.
edited by Julie (Fiscus) Ricketts