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Thomas Gamage (abt. 1476 - bef. 1543)

Sir Thomas Gamage
Born about in Coety, Glamorganshire, Walesmap
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Husband of — married 1497 [location unknown]
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Died before before about age 67 [location unknown]
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Biography

Thomas Gamage was born about 1476 in Glamorgan, Wales.[citation needed]
"Thomas Gamage (or Gammage), Knt., of Coity, Miskin, Glynrothney, Llandaf, and St. Morgans's, Glamorgan, Caldicot, Newton, and Llanvihangel, Monmouthshire, and, of London, [was] son and heir of Morgan Gamage, of Coity, Glamorgan, by Eleanor, daughter of Roger Vaughan, of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales."[1]
He married Margaret St. John (by settlement dated 1497).[1]
Thomas was knighted in 1513.[2]
Sir Thomas and Margaret had four sons and four daughters:
  • Edmund Gamage[1]
  • Robert Gamage, Esq.,[1] married Joan, daughter of Philip Champernoun
    • Robert's elder son, John, "m. Gwenllian, daughter of Sir Thomas ap Jenkin Powel Tellet of Glyn Ogwr.... [John died in 1584 and] was succeeded by his daughter,
      • Barbara [married] Robert Sidney"[2]
  • John, married Joan Stradling[1] (1516 settlement). John died "during the lifetime of his parents".[2])
  • Morgan[1]
  • Katherine, married Thomas Stradling[1] (1516 settlement)[2], son of Edward Stradling and his wife Elizabeth Arundel[1]
  • Mary, married Matthew Herbert[1]
  • Margaret Gamage,[1] 2nd wife of William Howard[3]
  • Elizabeth Gamage, wife of Richard Wogan, Esq., and Jenkin ab Owain Gwyn[1]
He had no children by his second wife, Joyce (daughter of Sir Richard Croft). He had three base-born children by a daughter of Richard Spernell:[4]
  • Ann who married John ap Ieuan[4]
  • a daughter (unnamed) who married Richard Grant of Siginston[4]
  • Morgan Gamage, who married Jonet ferch Hywel Goch[4]
"Sir Thomas Gamage left a will proved 26 June 1543."[5]

Research Notes

Date Estimated based on historical events and/or calculated by ages of other family members.Note: Birth date guess of "about 1476" is based on marriage settlement date of 1497 (assuming he was 21 at the time, rather than younger & this was the date of a marriage contract).

Sources conflict on the given name of his mother (Elinor Vaughan currently in WikiTree):

Bartrum, which names her Margaret (see Bartrum: Drymbenog 2(C1) and Gamage 1). Richardson names her Eleanor, "daughter of Roger Vaughan of Tretower, Breconshire, Wales" (see Richardson's Plantagenet Ancestry, p 135). One site[6] names her Elinor 'Margred'. Celtic Royal Genealogy names her Margred.
WikiTree has her mother as Margaret Tuchet (Roger's second wife), which is not supported by sources. Richardson does not name her mother, but she is shown as the daughter of Roger's first wife, Denise, by Bartrum (Drymbenog 2(C1)), Lewis (Eleanor Vaughan), the Dictionary of Welsh Biography (VAUGHAN family, of Tretower Court), and Celtic Royal Genealogy (Margred, daughter of Roger and Denis).
The dates for Roger's marriages and his children's birth years as currently shown in WikiTree are incompatible with Denise being her mother.

Sources

  1. 1.00 1.01 1.02 1.03 1.04 1.05 1.06 1.07 1.08 1.09 1.10 Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry, p 239
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 "GAMAGE family, of Coety (‘ Coity ’), Glam." article by Evan David Jones, F.S.A., (1903-87), Aberystwyth, Dictionary of Welsh Biography, The National Library of Wales (accessed July 9, 2015)
  3. Royal Ancestry, Vol II, p 278, CODNOR #19
  4. 4.0 4.1 4.2 4.3 #Bartrum
  5. Richardson's Plantagenet Ancestry, p 135
  6. Janet Ariciu's page on Morgan
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Plantagenet Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 3 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. Salt Lake City: the author, 2011. See also WikiTree's source page for Plantagenet Ancestry.
  • The Bartrum Project, digitization of "Welsh Genealogies AD 300- 1500" by Peter C. Bartrum (mirrored from the defunct Cadair site by Geni: Bartrum Genealogical Project - free login required to access the charts). See additional information about Cadair in G2G.
See also:
  • Lewys Dwnn, Heraldic Visitations of Wales and part of the marches between the years 1586 and 1613, page 108 (footnote 1)
  • Thomas Gamage, Rootsweb entry from the database for Celtic Royal Genealogy, the Turner-Thomas site "which is a definitive, well researched site" (according to Prof. Myron Wyn Evans, in his book O Hudd Ei Ddoe (2012).

Acknowledgements

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http://www.thepeerage.com/p2705.htm#i27048 = thepeerage.com (but not considered a reliable source)
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Source: Douglas Richardson. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols, ed. Kimball G. Everingham (Salt Lake City: the author, 2013), volume IV, page 534 SAINT JOHN 17.

John Saint John, son and heir by his father's first marriage. He married Sibyl (or Margaret) Ferch Morgan AP Jenkin AP Philip, daughter of Morgan ap Jenkin ap Philip, Esq., by his 2nd wife, Margred, daughter of Dafydd Matthew, Knt. They had three sons, John, Oliver, and Alexander, and five daughters, Elizabeth (wife of Thomas Rotheram), Alice (wife of Henry Parker) Margaret, Sibyl (wife of Robert Kirkham), and Katherine (wife of Griffith ap Rhys (or Ryce), and Peter Edgecombe). Sir John Saint John left a will dated 22 March 1524/5, proved 23 May 1525.

Gamage-106 and Gamage-6 appear to represent the same person because: Both married to Marg. St. John
posted by [Living Cullip]

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