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Thomas Dickerman Jr. (1597 - 1657)

Thomas Dickerman Jr.
Born in Englandmap
[sibling(s) unknown]
Husband of — married 20 Oct 1631 in Little Missenden, Buckinghamshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died at about age 60 in Dorchester, Suffolk, Massachusetts Baymap
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The Puritan Great Migration.
Thomas Dickerman Jr. migrated to New England during the Puritan Great Migration (1621-1640). (See The Directory, by R. C. Anderson, p. 94)
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Contents

Biography

Thomas Dickerman was born, England, about 1597.

He married Elinor Whittington 20 October 1631 in Little Missenden, Buckinghamshire.[1][2]

Immigration

According to Robert Charles Anderson (Great Migration Directory), Thomas Dickerman came from Little Missenden, Buckinghamshire, England, to Dorchester, Massachusetts, in 1637.

At Massachusetts Bay

On 14 March 1638/9, Thomas Dickerman was made a freeman.[3] His name is listed among the members of the Dorchester church.[4]

Thomas Dickerman died at Dorchester, 3 : 11 mo: 1657 [3 January 1657/8].[5][6][7]

Children

Thomas Dickerman's known children,[8]

  1. Thomas Dickerman, born 1623;[9] died before 1691; married (1) Elizabeth, (2) Anne
  2. Abraham Dickerman, born circa. 1634 m. Mary Cooper
  3. Isaac Dickerman, born "(9o)" 1637 [November 1637];[10] baptized Dorchester, 1637 or 1638.[11]
  4. John Dickerman, baptized Dorchester, 29 Oct 1644 died young.

Needs

Needs Research. Thomas' profile has already been categorized with "Needs Research." This should include a review of WikiTree collaborators' comments posted to the profile suggesting that Thomas married earlier, possibly more than once, and that he may have had additional children.

Research Notes

Great Migration Directory.The following sources are listed in the Great Migration Directory p. 94 For links

  • DChR 3 - Records of the First Church at Dorchester in New England, 1636-1734 (Boston 1891)
  • DTR 1:30 - Fourth Report of the Record Commissioners of the City of Boston. 1880. Dorchester Town Records (Boston 1883)
  • MBCR 1:375 - Records of the Governor and Company of the Massachusetts Bay in New England, 1628-1686, Nathaniel B. Shurtleff, ed., 5 volumes in 6 (Boston 1853-1854)
  • SPR Case #175 - Suffolk County, Massachusetts, Probate Records. [See also, Case 175 (Dickerman), Suffolk County, MA: Probate File Papers; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors.]
  • NEHGR 5:98, Mrs. David Pulsifer, "Early Records of Boston," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 5 (1851):98; digital images, Hathi Trust.
  • Donald Lines Jacobus, "Dickerman Origin in England," The American Genealogist, 26 (1950):165-167; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors; publishing Charles E. Banks clues and references communicated by Horace Dickerman circa 1930..
  • Gillespie Anc 108-10 - Paul W. Prindle, Ancestry of Elizabeth Barrett Gillespie (Mrs. William Sperry Beinecke) (New Orleans 1976)
  • Edward Dwight Dickerman and George Sherwood Dickerman, Dickerman Genealogy: Descendants of Thomas Dickerman ... with a supplement ... (New Haven 1922), 10-11 (Suffolk Deeds Lib. IV., 301-303, Bullard to Hewens), 1665), 11-12 (1657 Inventory of Thomas Dickerman) 17 (Thomas^1; digital images, InternetArchive.

Son Isaac. His date of birth was published as December 1637 in 1897 and 1922. The published record reports the birth "(9o)" 1637, see Mrs. David Pulsifer, "Early Records of Boston," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 5 (1851):98; digital images, Hathi Trust.


Sources

  1. W. P. W. Phillimore and Thomas Gurney, Buckingham Parish Registers (London: Phillimore & Co., Ltd., 1911), multiple vols., 7:104 (Marriages at Little Missenden [Vol. 1]); digital image, FamilySearch.
  2. Donald Lines Jacobus, "Dickerman Origin in England," The American Genealogist, 26 (1950):165-167; digital images by subscription, AmericanAncestors; publishing Charles E. Banks clues and references communicated by Horace Dickerman circa 1930.
  3. "Old Dorchester," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 5 (1851):398 (Thomas Dickerman); digital images, Hathi Trust.
  4. Records of the First Church at Dorchester (Boston, Mass. : G.H. Ellis, 1891), 4; digital images, [https://hdl.handle.net/2027/loc.ark:/13960/t0ht2t00d?urlappend=%3Bseq=36 Hathi Trust=.
  5. Citing "Ellen Dickerman, wid. of Thomas, deposed 25: 11 : 1657," Wm. B. Trask, "Abstracts from the Earliest Wills on record in the County of Suffolk, Mass.," New England Historical and Genealogical Register 9 (1855):344 (Thomas Dickerman); digital images, Hathi Trust.
  6. Thomas Dickerman [1657/8] death entry in Dorchester ledger, "Dorchester Births Marriages Deaths, 1635 to 1682" in "Massachusetts, U.S., Town and Vital Records, 1620-1988"; digital images by subscription, Ancestry.com.
  7. Edward Dwight Dickerman and George Sherwood Dickerman, Families of Dickerman Ancestry; Descendants of Thomas Dickerman ... (New Haven, Connecticut: The Tuttle, Morehouse & Taylor Press, , 1897), 17 (Thomas^1 Dickerman); digital images, GoogleBooks.
  8. Edward Dwight Dickerman and George Sherwood Dickerman, Dickerman Genealogy: Descendants of Thomas Dickerman ... with a supplement ... (New Haven 1922), 10-11 (Suffolk Deeds Lib. IV., 301-303, Bullard to Hewens, 1665), 11-12 (1657 Inventory of Thomas Dickerman) 17 (Thomas^1; digital images, InternetArchive.
  9. Edward Holden, "Depositions from the Files of Suffolk," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 20 (1866):143 (1658 entry); digital images, InternetArchive.
  10. Mrs. David Pulsifer, "Early Records of Boston," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 5 (1851):98; digital images, Hathi Trust.
  11. Records of the First Church at Dorchester (Boston, Mass. : G.H. Ellis, 1891), 150; digital images, Hathi Trust; notatin, "Removed to Connecticut."
  • The Great Migration Directory, page 94 (Anderson, 2015).




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Go to Findagrave for Hannah Bassett

Birth Date: 1622 Birth Place: England Death Date: 6 Nov 1665 Death Place: New Haven And you will see that William Ives married BOTH William Bassett and William Ives. There are sources for both.

Name: Hannah Dickerman Gender: Female Spouse Name: William Ives Spouse Birth Year: 1607 Marriage Year: 1642 Number Pages: 1


Name: Hannah Bassett [Hannah Ives] Maiden Name: Dickerman Gender: Female Marriage Date: 7 Nov 1648 Marriage Place: New England, USA Spouse: William Bassett

posted by Gloria Beymer
Thank you.

I reviewed Hannah's entry at FindAGrave.

See also:

I also reviewed the entry for William Ives in New England Marriages prior to 1700. (By subscription, see AmericanAncestors.)

This entry calls her "Hannah [?Dickerman]." The works consulted for that New England Marriages … entry are, "New Haven Gen. Mag. 148, 910; Ludington-Saltus 89; Curtis 38; Marks-Platt 29, 67, 95; Sv. 1:136; Merriman 139; Goodyear 153; Dickerman 1:18; Miner Anc. 35; Basset Reunion 1:18; Beach Anc. (1926) 60; Reg. 81:126; Smith-Brayan 112; Keeler-Wood 327; Randall Anc. 443; Hall-Baldwin 107."

Might you know which of the New England Marriages .. works consulted helps to identify her as "Hannah" and as possibly Hannah Dickerman? Especially important are the references in those materials to primary sources.

As this impacts say 6 or 7 profiles, suspect this would be best sorted via a G2G from Hannah's profile.

Separately, her profile woud benefit by adding links to the sources listed, especially those in the public domain (most of the reference notes seem to refer to materials likely to be in the public domain).

Again, thanks. --Gene

Edited to add: Appears a review of New England Marriages ... works consulted has been made. See comments appended to the list of "Torrey's New England Marriages." None of these seem to make the argument with source details that she is Hannah Dickerman.

Does appear this will require a deeper analysis as to what "brother" could mean. Even if the link can not be proven as yet, there ought to be good research notes all all the relevant profiles with cross links.

P.S. In the comments appended to New England Marriages ... on Hannah's profile for Dickerman (1897) "claims no such relationship" might be better said as, "reports no such relationship."

posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
The statement in the bio that Thomas "and Elenor" had four sons is obviously wrong, because while oldest son Thomas' birth is given as (around) 1623, Thomas didn't marry Eleanor until much later (i.e., 1631).

Imho Thomas Jr. came from the marriage of Thomas Dickerman Sr. to Mary ("Marie") Custace at St. Clement Dane, Westminster, 3 Nov 1622. The handwriting of the parish clerk is generally very clear, but the initial letter of the bride's surname is a bit puzzling, I will admit. However, if you compare all of the initial letters of the various brides named "Elizabeth" on those pages, you will see that Thomas Dickerman's wife was probably named Custace. But then the clerk used a different form of "C" for the marriage of somebody named "Clerke," so it's a bit puzzling.

Then there's also the matter of the marriage of a Thomas Dickerman in 1613 to Elizabeth Sims (Kew archives). The name is so extremely rare in English records that I think that we should leave open the possibility that Thomas was closer to 65 than 60 at the time of his death, such that he could have been the groom of 1613.

posted by Barry Wood
Barry, you raise some interesting points. I'd recommend posting a question on the G2G forum tagged with "PGM" and "England" to get broader exposure on this. I didn't see any other likely Dickerman/Dickman profiles or a Mary Custace profile so you may be uncovering some good new information.
posted by Brad Stauf
If he is a son, I would suggest exploring simple typographical error of 1632 vs 1623. The profile for Thomas is entirely unsourced although there appears to be some info on him thru American Ancestors.
posted by T Stanton
I had the same thought, however, his 1623 birth has surely been devised from the published notes about a deposition. It's one of the numbers in that document (possibly date of deposition but more likely, his age), which I haven't seen, that might have been transcribed erroneously.

See Edward Holden, "Depositions from the Files of Suffolk," New England Historical and Genealogical Register, 20 (1866):143 (1658 entry); digital images, InternetArchive.

In the Bullard-Hewens deed (1665), there is no special condition shown for a child born to some other mother when she refers to the division of the estate "between her & her Children, the youngest of wch having attayned to the age of one & twenty yeares."

See Edward Dwight Dickerman and George Sherwood Dickerman, Dickerman Genealogy:Descendants of Thomas Dickerman ... with a supplement ... (New Haven, Conn.: 1922), 10-11 (Suffolk Deeds Lib. IV., 301-303); digital images, InternetArchive.

posted by GeneJ X
edited by GeneJ X
I corrected Thomas' death date and added source. The sources for 3 marriages and images can be viewed at Thomas Dickerman & Marie Eustace 3 Nov 1622, image shown pg 4 of 9 https://dickerman.org/pdf/Dickerman_Ancestry_Additum-DAL_Dec_2013.pdf The years are 1613, 1622 and 1631. The baptism of son Thomas is also there with image but mother is 2nd wife, Maria, not Elleanor. I will leave the corrections to be made by profile managers. It may be of interest to know that the locations of the 1st and last marriage are only about 30 miles apart and the surname is rare enough to believe they are the same Thomas Dickerman.
posted by Connie Mack
Thomas had no daughter Hannah. Disconnect will be done. Objections?
posted by Anne B
Hi Anne Based on the sources at the link to David Allen Lower's work I left, the case for Hannah being the daughter of Thomas and his first wife is circumstantial but much of the evidence is, when dating genealogy back this far. Unless a marriage record names both the wife and both her parents, we are left to assume, based on time and location. The first piece of circumstantial evidence is the time that passed between Thomas Dickerman's first and 2nd marriage, more than enough time to have produced children. His first recorded child found thus far, Thomas, was born to his 2nd wife. Further, both Thomas Dickerman and William Ives were in Boston at the same time, and before William moved to New Haven. Next, a son of Thomas and his 3rd wife settled in New Haven, where the wife of William Ives is found. The two towns are 117 miles apart as the crow flies. Next, there appears to be reference to William Ives wife being Hannah Dickerman in family records handed down by an aunt of William, the descendants being located on Prince Edward Island, Canada, although I haven't seen them. Next, the Ancestry published of the descendants of William Curtis of Marcellus, NY, published in 1912, in the section on John Parker and Hannah Basset, states she is the daughter of Hannah Dickerman Ives. See https://books.google.com/books?id=P97KtgEACAAJ&focus=searchwithinvolume&q=hannah+basset Another secondary reference to Hannah Dickerman is in the genealogy published in 1937 by Arthur Coon Ives.
posted by Connie Mack

Rejected matches › Thomas Dickerman III (1623-1671)

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