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Louis Chauvin (1678 - 1769)

Louis "Beaulieu de Monplaisir" Chauvin aka sieur de Beaulieu
Born in Montréal, Canada, Nouvelle-Francemap
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Husband of — married 1724 in New Orleans, Louisianamap
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Died at about age 90 in New Orleans, Louisiane, Nueva Españamap
Profile last modified | Created 12 Feb 2017
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Louis Chauvin lived in Canada, New France, now Québec, Canada.
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Biography

Louis Beaulieu de Monplaisir Chauvin was born in Montréal, Quebec in 1678. Louis Chauvin was baptized on 17 Feb 1678 at Notre-Dame de Montréal, Canada, Nouvelle-France. He was the son of Pierre Chauvin and Marthe Autreuil.[1][2][3] On the 1681 census the family is living in Montréal:

Pierre Chauvin 50 ; Marie-Marthe (Dautreuil), sa femme, 45 ; enfants : Pierre 18, Barbe 16, Gilles 13, Michelle 12, Jacques 10, Joseph 8, Nicolas 6, Louis 4, Paul 2 ; 1 fusil ; 8 bêtes à cornes ; 55 arpents en valeur.[4]

Louis, his brothers and others formed a trading society in October 1716:

OCTOBRE.
Le 10.—Gabriel Baudreau dit Graveline, né à Montréal en 1666, fils d'Urbain Baudreau et de Marguerite Juillet, épouse en 1701 dans la même ville, Catherine Forestier. Nous le retrouvons formant avec MM. de Saint-Denis, de Léry, LaFresnière, Beaulieu et Derbanne, tous Canadiens, une société de commerce. Ils prennent aux magasins de M. Croissat, à qui Sa Majesté avait accordé, en 1713 , le commerce de la Louisiane pour dix ans, des marchandises au montant de 60,000 livres, dans le dessein de les vendre aux Espagnols du- nouveau royaume de Léon, et partent ensemble de la Mobile, le 10 octobre 1716. (Journal Histor. de l'Établissement des Français à la Louisiane, par Benard de la Harpe, pp. 374, 375, 376.) (pg 110)[5]

Louis Chauvin sieur de Beaulieu was engagé ouest (contracted for travel West) from 27 May 1701 to 3 June 1723.[3]

Jacques Nepveu avait épousé à Montréal, en 1695, Michelle Chauvin, dont trois frères, Joseph, Louis et Nicolas, s'établirent à la Louisiane et que l'on rencontre au recensement de 1724 sous les noms de Joseph Chauvin de Léry, Louis Chauvin de Beaulieu, et Nicolas Chauvin de la Fresnière. (L'Auteur.)-- Jacques Nepveu had married in Montreal, in 1695, Michelle Chauvin, whose three brothers, Joseph, Louis and Nicolas, settled in Louisiana and that one meets in the census of 1724 under the names of Joseph Chauvin de Léry, Louis Chauvin de Beaulieu, and Nicolas Chauvin de la Fresnière. (The Author.)[5]

Louis Chauvin de Beaulieu, son of Pierre dit Le Grand Pierre, married Charlotte Duval in 1724.[6]

Louis Chauvin died in 1730.[7]

Research notes

Jacques CHAUVIN de Charleville, Joseph CHAUVIN de Léry, Nicolas CHAUVIN de la Fresnière, Louis CHAUVIN de Beaulieu, les 4 frères étaient de très riches propriétaires en Louisiane, ayant à leur service plus de 175 esclaves, noirs ou sauvages[8]

Sieur de Beaulieu entered the fur trade in the early French period, and accompanied Antoine Lamothe-Cadillac to establish the first permanent settlement at Le Detroit on July 24, 1701. Plaques and statues in downtown Detroit celebrate the event, and the French-Canadian Heritage Society of Michigan has photographs of those statues on their website. On their site, the Society lists the names of these Frenchmen and informs us that the convoy included fifty French soldiers and some passengers: "Chacornac, baron de Jaonnes; Pierre Dugue, sieur de Boisbriant; Antoine Lamothe, fils [brother]; Alphonse Tonty, baron de Paludy; a Recollet priest, and Francois Vaillant de Gueslis, S.J." Images of these statues, and names of the gentlemen/voyageurs, are online at http://fchsm.habitant.org/plaque.html

Sieur de Beaulieu's actual name is Louis Chauvin, sieur de Beaulieu, and descendents of this man have told me that in the years I am searching for Beaulieu men, his descendents still used the Chauvin name.

There is a little more information on this site you might be interested in, if you can access it. When I tried today, the pages were not available. But the family trees of the persons who were in Detroit have been compiled into a document by Yves Drolet, a member of the societe genealoque canadienne-francais, and is supposedly available online at www.fchsm.habitant.org It is called "Genealogical Tables of the Quebec Noblesse from the 17th to the 19th Century," and comes in both French and English.

When I searched the U.S. French Catholic Church Records in the Drouin Collection on Ancestry.ca many years ago, I discovered that in 1752 Sieur de Beaulieu had an infant baptized; and that in 1753 the priest "baptized Catherine fille legitime of Sr. Beaulieu and de spouse francoise..." He appeared to be at Sault Ste Marie, and also seemed to be listed as a 'Commander pour le Roi." Later I found a translation of above document headed: Makinac, Ste-Anne; Copie "Wisconsin Historical." It read: "July 15, 1753, I administered holy Baptism to Catherine, legitimate daughter of Sieur Beaulieu and of his wife, Francoise, residing at Sault Ste Marie, born on April 18 last. The godfather was Mr. de Beaujeau, Captain Commanding for the King at this post; and the godmother Mlle Bourassa."

Sooner or later I will have to follow up on this man, to see if his boy children could have entered the fur trade using the name Beaulieu. You have to follow every lead.[9]

  • Indian Tribes of the Lower Mississippi Valley and Adjacent Coast of the Gulf; John R. Swanton; Courier Corporation, Feb 20, 2013 pg 243 states that around 1730, Perrier sent Sieur de Coulonge, a Canadian, to the Akanasas, who were to assemble at the French fort at Natchez. The Sieur de Beaulieu embarked with him.

Sources

  1. Québec, registres paroissiaux catholiques, 1621-1979, Montréal > Notre-Dame > Baptêmes, mariages, sépultures 1642-1694 > image 313 of 598; Archives Nationales du Quebec (National Archives of Quebec), Montreal. FamilySearch
  2. Bapt. IGD - Drouin (membership)
  3. 3.0 3.1 Dictionnaire généalogique des familles du Québec (membership) - René Jetté pg 242
  4. Wikisource Recensement 1681 Census selon Benjamin Sulte
  5. 5.0 5.1 À travers les registres notes recueillies par l'Abbé Cyprien Tanguay, Montréal, Librairie St-Joseph, Cadieux & Derome éditeurs, 1886. See footnote on Page 116, image 124 of 283.pg 116
  6. Hepburn & O'Neill Family History Site
  7. Arthur, Stanley C., Old Families of Louisiana (Gretna, LA: Pelican Publishing Co., 1999) pp. 239-240
  8. Migrations: Filles à marier, Marthe Hautreux
  9. Nancy Margueriete Anderson's Blog Fur Trade Family History
See Also:
  • JOURNAL ARTICLE - The Chauvin Brothers: Early Colonists of Louisiana; Gary B. Mills; Louisiana History: The Journal of the Louisiana Historical Association; Vol. 15, No. 2 (Spring, 1974); pp. 117-131
  • Indian Tribes of the Lower Mississippi Valley and Adjacent Coast of the Gulf; John R. Swanton; Courier Corporation, Feb 20, 2013 pg 243




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So I figured it all out how Bartholemew is Luis chavin, it is explained in the plot of the novel and movie "The Scarlet Pimpernel"... Bart/ Sir Percy Blakney (the richest man in the world at the time) was on a rescue effort to save royalists, specifically King Luis the 17, the little boy who was no doubt going to be killed had he not been rescued.. not by Bart himself but by Josephine (who I'm pretty sure is who married Napoleon Bonaparte)<faked her own death somehow and escaped to Louisiana, meeting up with Bartholomew who was using Luis Chauvins name as a disguising effort, giving up everything and who he was to save my great grandfather from the French revolution... I am glad to have found out this and possibly be the first to do so, more interested in finding the why's and the how's and connecting the dots, and revealing a lost history, as well as learning about the French revolution apart from what is taught in school, which really does not get into much detail, other than it is speculated the bother the king and kis wife met their deaths by guilotein... Which is odd if you go to Nova Scotia where the wreck of the Francis is said to have happened and the ghost of the queen still lurks their waiting for her king to arrive...
posted by Randy Lebleu
hello Randy,

the plot of a movie and novel? That is certainly not considered a credible source. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Scarlet_Pimpernel shows no connection whatsoever to Louis Chauvin.

Danielle

posted by Danielle Liard
I don't get how Louis chauvin doesn't have a daughter named Catherine who is baptized..

"July 15, 1753, I administered holy Baptism to Catherine, legitimate daughter of Sieur Beaulieu and of his wife, Francoise, residing at Sault Ste Marie, born on April 18 last.

Bartholomew blaise LeBlue also has this daughter who was baptized on the same record having her father recognized as the Commander pour le Roi...

At this time the King was just a boy a Lost child King Louie the 17th born Louis Charles Duke of Normandy...

Who's birth records seem to fit with Bart's supposed son Jean LeBleu..

Leblues family history have connections to Jean Leffite, who also has similar birth records and the same middle name as Jean Baptiste LeBLue....

Could it be that Jean LeBleu is King Louie the 17 and Captain Jean Leffite as well. who did rescue Charles sellier from exile, along side Bartholomew Blaise LeBlue?

It really distorts my family history when so many people want some sort of connection to these people and toss is their names out of wishful thinking, when records will and can determine these things based on intensive research others have already done, knowing that this information has been recently altered incorrectly that do not include a daughter as being a legitimate named Catherine.

It is evident by baptism records that this information is wrong and has been confused with someone else..

It's possible that King Louie could have been sent to the Americas and survived. It seems that Sieur de Coulonge was a wilderness guide and translator of Native American languages to French, and sieur de Beaulieu was his American born guard, who had a child before he was born named catherine LeBleu who was baptized on record and has all of her brothers and sisters with solid birth records except for one person Jean Baptiste leblue, which is another odd factor when researching birth records of these people.

Sorry but you gonna have to change this and correct it... Dates and all so they are correct to include Catherine Salier (formerly LeBleu)...but also may help solve some of history greatest wonders too... Having the information in the right place.... Just saying...

posted by Randy Lebleu
hello Randy,

Well, just a quick look at your question, the Catherine you mention born in 1753 is daughter of the sieur Beaulieu and his wife Françoise in Sault-Sainte-Marie.

First, Louis' wife is named Charlotte, not Françoise. Second, per what you say Catherine in born in Sault-Sainte-Marie, which is either the one in Ontario or the one in Michigan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sault_Ste._Marie,_Ontario but in either case, a long way away from https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Nouvelle-Orl%C3%A9ans la Nouvelle-Orléans.

I don't know what sources you are using, but Catherine Lebleu who married Anselme Salier is here https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/LeBleu-63

As for the rest of the text you enter about King Louis XVII, where is that coming from please? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_XVII that poor boy died in France.

posted by Danielle Liard
I have found out why everything is the way it is... (the Scarlet pimpernel) this is who this man was, this specific Luis Chauvin, was a stolen name used as a disguise.

For me it's personal finding out the whys and how's it's part of me and made me who I am today, which starts to make sense, when you learn about who these people are why they did what they did to have it end up this way, and still have the feeling like I am missing something, that is a price of who I am, and the key to my being.

posted by Randy Lebleu
I removed the Lebleu references from the bio, because of irrelevance. The Hepburn and O'Neill Family History Site is gone (404 error)
posted by Michael Dolese
archive.org's Wayback Machine captured it - I've replaced the URL (I'm working through other Chauvin profiles & replacing those too).

Cheers, Liz

P.S. When you find a dead link, copy it, go to https://web.archive.org/ & paste it in the box on that page to see if the Wayback Machine captured it.

posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
Why it's part of history that should remain due to it how I figured out a lot about who I am and what make me who I am today... Should investigate the why and how's and not assume history, because it doesn't suit your ideas of how things happened...

I'm sorry but Luis Chauvin and Barhtomew Blaise LeBlue are the same person in fact, this was not an error but a clue...

Without this clue I would be lost in finding my self through my own family history, which this is a part of..

Its part of the truth, without it my life becomes a lie made by ignorance of possibilities.

Is it possible that Bart was infact also Luis.... But buis was not Bart, I say yes, as much as Luis was not sir Percy Blakney/ the Beaulieu...

I did a lot of reasearch, and this clue prooves the king Luis the 17 was infact rescued and that the people in the story of the Scarlet Pimpernel< some with villianized names altered to amuse and persuade the audience, were infact real and was based on true events.

posted by Randy Lebleu
Two things:

1. What's with the weird display of the Louisiana and Quebec project boxes on this profile? Why do they say "Marie Gentils" when her name is nowhere in his data (not even as wife, since I disconnected her) ? 2. I disconnected her. She supposedly married him in 1710, in "Bardaux," New Orleans, which does not exist, and anyway her profile says she arrived in Louisiana in 1718. Every mention of her is with a husband named LeBleu, not Beaulieu.

posted by Stephanie Ward
he has both project boxes because he was born on this end and later moved south.

When you disconnected Marie Gentils, did you forget to disconnect her son also? Barthélemy Lebleu is showing as son of this man and Marie Gentils still. As if he was illegitimate.

posted by Danielle Liard
I'm working on it, geez. My question, though was about the text displayed in the boxes, not why are the boxes there. It's his profile and they said her name instead of his. As soon as I removed the LeBleu, the text corrected.
posted by Stephanie Ward
edited by Stephanie Ward
that's a temporary glitch that happens when you go from one profile to the other, never figured out why it happens, doesn't last.
posted by Danielle Liard
Because these names a were part of false identities... Quebec and luisanna were safe havens.. everything thing is explained in the plot of the Scarlet Pimpernel... Which I found in search of a king of France living in America at the time... Could not find one... leading me to learning about the French revolution and a lost boy king ( why the kings commander at his post was where he was, which had to be by the king wherever he may be<his post< even in death and before the Kings inauguration he was the godfather of the king to be, according to royal decree at the time, and in some cases more of a father than the king to his own son)

learning about some connection to the king in this way to my own family through the baptism of Catherine sallier LeBleu, under Luise Chauvin **Beaulieu de Monplaisir< the first clue to who louis Chauvin really was... Which is not the name here, as this name was part of a disguise used by the Beaulie to escape the French revolution along with "prisoners" who real name is one of many as he alternatively and by Originanality went by Bart, or Percy, I. Persuit of freedom and wealth away from riches<love...

Eventually leading to me being able to be born... What I can't be more thankful for..

posted by Randy Lebleu
Will someone please remove Marie Gentils and Barthelemy Lebleu from this profile there are no sources for either? Lebleu was not a corruption of Beaulieu, it was a common surname in France at the time.
posted by Michael Dolese
this is one for Louisiana project, not my end.

Danielle

posted by Danielle Liard
Actually leblue is not a common surname in France never was... I did the census research an the name only exists in the Americas...
posted by Randy Lebleu
Wondering about the first connected wife, as I saw no reference to her and no source?
posted by Stephanie Ward
it's in the various notes, an unresolved piece of research

by the way, in said notes is a reference made to Yves Drolet's tables de noblesse (nobility tables), someone misread a name somewhere, I have that reference and the dictionnary it is drawn from and there are no Chauvin de Beaulieu in there.

posted by Danielle Liard
I've added Needs Research categories for both Quebecois and Louisiana projects, just to help flag it for further research in the future.
NOTE.

- A sister's brother Sainte-Marguerite, Jacques, married Michelle Chauvin, who had three brothers in Louisiana: Joseph Chauvin from Léry, Louis Chauvin de Beaulieu, Nicolas Chauvin de la Fresnière, all three very wealthy landlords with more than seventy-five slaves, black or wild. (wild = "sauvages" canada this term was attached to anyone with any "native blood-full/half/metis/etc)

The original of this "NOTE" can be read in French on bk pg. 46 /dgtl image pg 56 of 470.

Source - Titre : Histoire de la Congrégation de Notre-Dame de Montréal Créateurs : Sainte-Henriette, soeur, C.N.D., 1839-1917 , Saint-Pierre-Martyr, soeur, C.N.D., 1870-1951 , Lambert, Thérèse, 1903- , Congrégation de Notre-Dame de Montréal Éditeur : Montréal :CND,1941-1974

http://numerique.banq.qc.ca/patrimoine/details/52327/2636110?docref=6kqd47fTUATUR5KdUSP31A&docsearchtext=Louis%20Beaulieu%20de%20Chauvin

posted by Arora (G) Anonymous
just to clarify, soeur Marguerite Nepveu dite Sainte-Marguerite had a brother named Jacques Nepveu married to Michelle Chauvin.

Very nice find Arora.

Danielle

posted by Danielle Liard
Chauvin-387 and Chauvin-329 appear to represent the same person because: Same birth details, same spouse
posted by Greg Lavoie
from data just found in Tanguay's book À travers les registres, Louis and his brothers are found in a 1724 census, obviously of Louisiana. Page 120 of that book lists some of the people in that census. Link is included as source, PDF (French).
posted by Danielle Liard
Thanks Gaston. I had read the Styles and Standards for PPP, but didn't see this profile meeting all four requirements. Danielle's comment about LNAB issues helped put that in perspective. I have seen a lot a LNAB name variations on WikiTree in the Chauvins who moved into Louisiane, Nouvelle-France.
posted by Jim Morin USN Ret
James, I suggest that you read «Styles and standards» «Project protecting and merging». There may ly your answer. I agree that a «Sieur» is not a nobility status.
posted by Gaston Tardif
re PPP, probably due to either the fact that he is a cross-over from this part of New France to Louisiana, or else due to the fact that his name was Chauvin, and we sometimes get Beaulieu as profile name, so protecting his LNAB. PPP are also put on profiles that have controversy/question on them,
posted by Danielle Liard
Interested in why this is a Quebecois project protected profile? He might have been a Sieur, but he was not a nobleman (contrary to the Research comment). He was definitely a landowner and an important person in Nouvelle-France. Just trying to understand the PPP.
posted by Jim Morin USN Ret
Thank you for adding Quebecois Project on the Trusted List.

But we need to have it a co-manager to keep the PPP on the profile. Please someone go on the privacy link and click on "add as manager" beside Quebecois Project.

Thank you

Guy

I'm changing his Last Name At Birth to just Chauvin? The "Sieur de Beaulieu" part does not go in LNAB field - Last Name at Birth (help)

Thank you

Chauvin Debeaulieu-4 and Chauvin Sieur de Beaulieu-1 appear to represent the same person because: same name/birth info & text for Debeaulieu-4 has same parents. But different death date & wives overlap.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett
upon saving:
Warning: Check the data.
  • A father's death date should not be more than nine months before one of his children's birth dates.
posted by Liz (Noland) Shifflett