Mary Elizabeth (Armstrong) Ramsbottom (abt. 1820 - abt. 1889)

Born about 1820 in Ireland

Descendants

Died about 31 Jan 1889 at about age 69 in Essa, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada

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Biography

Census

Canada Census, 1851

James Kinesteottom

Sex Male

Age 32

Birth Date 1819

Birth Year (Estimated) 1819

Birthplace Ireland

Event Type Census

Event Date 1851

Event Place York, York, Ontario, Canada

Sub-District York

Sub-District Number 402

District Number 42

Line Number 39

Page 11

Affiliate Film Number C_11760

Also Mentioned: Mary 42 Ireland, Robert Upper Canada 14, Mary " 10, Jonathan " 8, John " 6, Harriet " 4, William " 2. ^[1][2]

Canada, Ontario Census, 1861

James Keamsbottom

Sex Male

Age 40 years

Birth Date 1821

Birthplace Ireland

Residence Date 1861

Residence Place Essa, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada

Marital Status Married

Religion Church Of England

Event Type Census

Event Date 1861

Event Place

Essa Township, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada

Line Number 19

Sheet Number 39

Others Mentioned: Mary Raimsbottom F 50 years Ireland

Jonathan Raimsbottom M 15 years O

John Raimsbottom M 13 years O

Harriet Raimsbottom M 11 years O

William Raimsbottom M 10 years O

James Raimsbottom M 9 years O "Canada, Ontario Census, 1861", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQQ5-FYZ : Sat Mar 09 03:07:35 UTC 2024), Entry for James Keamsbottom, 1861.

Canada Census, 1871 James Raimsbottom Sex Male Age 16 years Birth Date 1855 Birth Year (Estimated) 1855 Birthplace O Nationality Irish Religion C England Event Type Census Event Date 1871 Event Place Sub-District Essa Household Identifier 157 House Number 157 Line Number 16 Page Number 47 Others Mentioned: James Raimsbottom M 51 years Ireland Marey Raimsbottom F 54 years Ireland Jonathan Raimsbottom M 27 years O John Raimsbottom M 25 years O William Raimsbottom M 19 years O "Canada Census, 1871", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M4Q1-H24 : Fri Mar 08 09:18:29 UTC 2024), Entry for James Raimsbottom and Marey Raimsbottom, 1871.

Canada Census, 1881 Mary Remsbottom Sex Female Age 70 Birth Date 1811 Birthplace Ireland Marital Status Married Race Irish Nationality Irish Religion Ch Eng Event Type Census Event Date 1881 Event Place Simcoe, Ontario, Canada Essa, Simcoe, Ontario, Canada Sub-District Essa Sub-District Number F District Number 138 Family Number 318 Page Number 74 Volume 13 Affiliate Publication Number e008185176 "Canada Census, 1881", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVFH-BPY : Sun Mar 10 06:29:44 UTC 2024), Entry for James Remsbottom and Mary Remsbottom, 1881.

Mary Ramsbottom

Sex Female

Age 79

Occupation Sawyers Wife

Event Type Death

Event Date 31 Jan 1889

Event Place Essa, Simcoe, Ontario

Birth Year (Estimated) 1810

Birthplace Ont.

Death Place Essa, Simcoe, Ontario

Death Age 79 years 11 months

Record Number 45 "Canada, Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JDYT-P32 : 2 March 2021), Mary Ramsbottom, 31 Jan 1889; citing Essa, Simcoe, Ontario, yr 1889 cn 21735, Registrar General. Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,853,494.

Marriage Cert. Daughter Harriet Name William Reed Birth Year (Estimated) 1836 Birthplace Ireland Father's Name William Reed Mother's Name Martha Reed Spouse's Name Harriet Ranesbottom Spouse's Age 16 Spouse's Birth Year (Estimated) 1847 Spouse's Birthplace Canada Spouse's Father's Name James Ranesbottom Spouse's Mother's Name Mary Ranesbottom Event Type Marriage Event Date 28 Aug 1863 Event Place Simcoe, Ontario, Canada ^[3]

Death Cert Daughter Mary Vanatta Sex Female Age 67 years 1 month 5 days Birth Date 14 May 1842 Birthplace Co. York Residence Date 19 Jun 1909 Residence Place Township Flos Occupation Farmers Wife Race White Father's Name James Ramesbottom Father's Sex Male Father's Birthplace Ireland Mother's Name Mary Armstrong Mother's Sex Female Mother's Birthplace Ireland Event Type Death Event Date 19 Jun 1909 Event Place Flos, Simcoe, Ontario Source Details yr 1909 cn 26500 "Canada, Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JXFX-3H9 : Tue Mar 05 06:31:38 UTC 2024), Entry for Mary Vanatta and James Ramesbottom, 19 Jun 1909.

Death Cert Son John Ramesbottom Sex Male Age 72 years Birth Date 1854 Father's Name James Ramesbottom Father's Sex Male Mother's Name Mary Armstrong Mother's Sex Female Event Type Death Event Date 02 Sep 1926 Event Place Ontario, Ontario, Canada "Canada, Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JFYK-PMQ : Fri Mar 08 04:18:45 UTC 2024), Entry for John Ramesbottom and James Ramesbottom, 02 Sep 1926.

Death of Stepson Jonathan Ramesbottom Sex Male Age 64 years Birth Date Birthplace Weston, York Co., Ontario Residence Date Residence Place Byng Inlet, Ontario Marital Status Married Race White Father's Name James Ramesbottom Father's Sex Male Father's Birthplace Tipperary, Ireland Mother's Sex Female Mother's Birthplace Tipperary, Ireland Event Type Death Event Date 21 Mar 1911 Event Place Ontario, Ontario, Canada Source Details yr 1912 cn 24762 "Canada, Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JX4S-P32 : Fri Mar 08 03:29:59 UTC 2024), Entry for Jonathan Ramesbottom and James Ramesbottom, 1911.

Death of Daughter Daughter Harriett Reid Sex F Father's Name James Ramesbottom Mother's Name Mary Armstrong Event Type Death Event Date 20 Feb 1933 Event Place London, , Ontario Birth Year (Estimated) 1849 Record Number 1383 "Canada, Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKXD-721 : 2 March 2021), James Ramesbottom in entry for Harriett Reid, 20 Feb 1933; citing London, , Ontario, 023018, Registrar General. Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 2,358,603.

Death Cert of Daughter Eliza Reid Daniels

Sex Female

Age 89

Marital Status Widowed

Race Irish

Father's Name Samuel Reid

Mother's Name Eliza Armstrong

Event Type Death

Event Date

Event Place London, Middlesex, Ontario

Birth Date 12 May

Birth Year (Estimated) 1832

Birthplace Weston, Ont

Death Place London, Middlesex, Ontario

Death Age 89 years 5 months 11 days

Burial Date 25 Oct 1921

Cemetery Mount Pleasant

Father's Birthplace Ireland

Mother's Birthplace Ireland

Record Number 94^[4]

Research Notes

Ongoing research into which Samuel and which Eliza are connected. See also Eliza Unknown (abt.1810-),

Unsourced- Eliza or Mary Armstrong marriage to Samuel Reid/Reed about 1829 in Ireland produced three daughters - Anne born 1830 in Ireland, before their immigration about 1831, then Eliza in 1832 in Weston, ON, and finally Deborah in 1834 in Weston, ON.

James 1821 Ireland

Mary Feb 1809 Ireland - 31 Jan 1889 Essa Twp.

Mary 14 May 1842 York County - 19 Jun 1909 Flos Twp.

Jonathan 10 Nov 1846 Weston On. - 21 Mar 1911 Parry Sound

Harriet 25 Feb 1848 Weston On - 20 Feb 1933 London Middlesex

John 04 Dec 1854 Black Creek On. - 02 Sep 1926 Little Current, Manitoulin

James Abt. 1855 Upper Can.

William 25 May 1858 - 08 Mar 1934 Detroit Mi.

VS 1851 Census VS 1861 Census

James 1819 Ireland  :James 1821 Ireland

Mary 1809 Ireland  :Mary 1811 Ireland

Robert 1835 U.C.  :Robert not @ home

Mary 1841 U.C.  :Mary not @ home

Jonathan 1843 U.C.  :Jonathan 1846 On.

John 1845 U.C.  :John 1848 On.

Harriet 1847 U.C.  :Harriet 1850 On.

William 1849 U.C.  :William 1851 On.

 :James 1852 On.

Email From A cousin: I am working on a Samuel Reid (abt.1818-) and Eliza(Armstrong) Ramsbottom (abt.1820-abt.1889) with 3 daughters, Anne born 1830 in Ireland, Eliza (possibly Eliza (Reid) Daniels (1833-1921)) born in 1832 in Canada and Deborah born in 1834 in Canada. Samuel has died before 1840 and Eliza(Armstrong) Reid (abt.1820-abt.1889) has married James Ramsbottom (1821-) or Ramesbottom. If her age at death is correct in this death record from 1899, then she was born about January 1809 in Ireland. I've found her daughter Mary Ramsbottom (1842-1909) born 1842 and Harriet born 1848. It's Mary's daughter, Hattie Vanatta who in a 1918 Canada-US border crossing mentions an Aunt Eliza Daniels in London, Ontario. This is why I think it's Mary Armstrong (abt.1820-abt.1889) who married our Samuel Reid (abt.1818-). <snip> I am working on Mary's Ramsbottom sons to see if I can find any further connections. But I think Samuel and Mary (or Eliza if she goes by that too, but I haven't found that anywhere as yet) should be born about 1809/1810. As soon as I can confirm her sons and their spouses and see if there is any mention of aunts and uncles that could give us more clues, I will share with the list. Otherwise, check out my Ancestry tree and see what you think. I've put the daughter Eliza in as a POSSIBLE for the time being but I think she is going to fit in there nicely. I think that it's possible that whoever informed on her death record listing her mother's name as Eliza was incorrect or as I've suggested she went by Mary Eliza Armstrong or Eliza Mary Armstrong. I'm convinced, especially with the DNA connections that we're on the right track, but would like to hear from the rest of you as to what you think when you look at all of this. Tammy

Sources

1. ↑ "Canada Census, 1851", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MWTL-CH6 : 1 October 2021), James Kinesteottom, 1851.
2. ↑ https://www.bac-lac.gc.ca/eng/census/1851/Pages/item.aspx?itemid=732728
3. ↑ "Canada, Ontario County Marriage Registers, 1858-1869", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2YM-MZXY : Sat Mar 09 21:35:41 UTC 2024), Entry for William Reed and William Reed, 28 Aug 1863.
4. ↑ "Canada, Ontario Deaths, 1869-1937 and Overseas Deaths, 1939-1947," , FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J639-6VL : 2 March 2021), Eliza Armstrong in entry for Eliza Reid Daniels, 23 Oct 1921; citing London, Middlesex, Ontario, yr 1921 cn 21680, Registrar General. Archives of Ontario, Toronto; FHL microfilm 1,863,541.