Are you interested in English Quakers?

+18 votes
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Are you interested in English Quakers? Do you have English Quaker ancestry?

The England and Quakers Projects are now co-sponsoring an English Quakers Team. More details at Space: England Quakers Team. We would love you to join us.

If you’d like to join the team, please either respond here or send a private message to one of the two team leaders, Stephen Trueblood or myself, Michael Cayley.

WikiTree profile: Space:England_Quakers_Team
in Requests for Project Volunteers by Michael Cayley G2G6 Pilot (233k points)

9 Answers

+7 votes
Rg4 Rg6, covers Quakers mainy 18th 19th Century.

Just Google them in.
by Wayne Morgan G2G Astronaut (1.1m points)
Thanks, some of us have been using those records. Do you want to join the English Quakers team, Wayne?
Willnot join,but if you give me a name,exact date birth,where

who married,or what else known will help/Have extensive experience,especially Great Britain.
Thanks, Wayne. :-D I will make that known to Team members.
+7 votes
Yes, because I believe my Morgan line came from England and I would like to understand more about the English and early Colony families.
by Cathi Stark G2G6 (7.2k points)
Thanks, Cathi. I will add you to the member list on the Team WikiTree page. If you have specific English Quaker interests, like a particular area of England, either let me know or add something after your name in the member list. Thanks!
Weren't the  Morgan's descended of Welsh?
Perhaps.  I haven't gotten that far back in documentation.   I will keep an eye out for that possibility.  Thanks for the information.

Hi Cathi Stark,

By Dr. John S Plant

July 2010:

"I found this bit of information, hope you can use it.

"Understanding the Royal name Plantagenet

How DNA Helps"

William Longsp´ee, Earl of Salisbury is one of my ancestors.

"The best-known bastard son of Geoffrey Plante Genest of Anjou was Hamelin, who became the Warenne earl of Surrey. Plante Genest’s eldest legitimate son, Henry II of England, had two well known, well placed bastards: Geoffrey, Archbishop of York; and, William Longsp´ee, earl of Salisbury. Identifying his other bastards is clothed in mystery though Henry’s reputation for womanising is clear. The best-known bastard son of Geoffrey Plante Genest of Anjou was Hamelin, who became the Warenne earl of Surrey. Plante Genest’s eldest legitimate son, Henry II of England, had two well known, well placed bastards: Geoffrey, Archbishop of York; and, William Longsp´ee, earl of Salisbury. Identifying his other bastards is clothed in mystery though Henry’s reputation for womanising is clear. He is supposed to have coveted the sister of Roger of Clare, earl of Hertford. A little later, Eude de Porhoet, who had been Brittany’s count, complained that Henry held his daughter hostage in 1168 and got her pregnant. Henry presumably fathered another bastard - Morgan, a provost of Berkeley and bishop-elect of Durham. And there were rumours that Henry debauched his own daughter-in-law to-be, He is supposed to have coveted the sister of Roger of Clare, earl of Hertford. A little later, Eude de Porhoet, who had been Brittany’s count, complained that Henry held his daughter hostage in 1168 and got her pregnant. Henry presumably fathered another bastard - Morgan, a provost of Berkeley and bishop-elect of Durham. And there were rumours that Henry debauched his own daughter-in-law to-be,"

+7 votes

Although I don't have a specific interest in English Quakers, a couple of days ago I came across the "Minute Book of the Monthly Meeting of Upperside, Buckinghamshire 1669-1690" while researching a branch of my family from Buckinghamshire.
This is an incredibly useful document and it mentions many notable quakers, including William Penn (founder of Pennsylvannia) who was a member until 1676.
Images of the BMD registers of the Monthly Meeting of Upperside are also available to be viewed for free on FamilySearch although they are not indexed.
I have just added two members of the Monthly Meeting of Upperside and some of their family members:

  • Thomas Ellwood  - a notable English Quaker who was surprisingly absent from WikiTree
  • Nicholas Noy  - his daughter married an early North Carolina colonial official and I was able to connect their daughter to an existing North Carolina Quaker family

I will continue to examine the minute book to see if I can add or improve other profiles of interest.

by Ray Hawkes G2G6 Mach 5 (55.4k points)
Thanks so much, Ray. You are a star. Thanks for creating such full bios.
Thanks, Ray, for having shared that source. I used the information to update the profiles for the children of William Penn as you suggested.

Today I added John Archdale another Quaker Notable who really deserved a profile, especially considering he served as Governor of North and South Carolina.
I found by adding his father Thomas Archdale I could connect him to 4 generations of ancestors who were already in WikiTree and by connecting him to his daughter Ann Archdale I could connect him to 8+ generations of descendants (more if an uncertain parentage is actually true).
It was also pleasing to be doing original research because none of the sources I read mentioned John Archdale had a first wife Elizabeth and Ann Archdale, who is found in several family trees with her husband, was their daughter
but the evidence from the Upperside minute book and registers is clear.
I have also improved a few other profiles of people mentioned in the Upperside minute book including adding the category to their profiles and the category is now beginning to look fairly healthy.

Thank you so much for all your continuing help, Ray. That Upperside Minute Book is a real find.
+6 votes
Since my sojourn in the world of the Upperside Monthly Meeting (which I will probably revisit to see if other notable Quaker profiles can be added or improved) I have just discovered that I might have some Quaker ancestors after all.

I have some ancestors from Ware in Hertfordshire and they appear to match some birth records in RG6/1337 for the Hertford Monthly Meeting.

Perhaps I should join the project since I will want to do more research on the members of this family.

Does anybody know if the minute book for the Hertford Monthly Meeting has been transcribed?
by Ray Hawkes G2G6 Mach 5 (55.4k points)

Hi Ray, I would be delighted if you were to join the Quakers Project and the English Quakers team. Just let me know if you decide you want to.

The minutes of Hertford Monthly Meeting are held by Hertfordshire Archives. You can use Hertfordshire Names Online to search for names in records held in the Archives, and a lot of names from Quaker records are there.

+5 votes

For the American Quaker descendants looking in on this project, you may not know about the resource referred to here as "R4 R6". It is to The National Archives (tna) register of Nonconformist Births, Marriages & Death records. Heres a link-Nonconformist BMDs

I found this incredibly interesting and useful, thanks!

by Susan Herod G2G3 (3.7k points)
+4 votes
Michael, I'm not sure if I have much time to help officially with the Project, but I do know that my Quaker ancestor, Thomas Janney emigrated to Pennsylvania from Cheshire shortly after Penn, left his wife and 4 sons and returned to evangelize in all parts of Great Britain, dying in his original home area after several years of traveling around. I would be very interested to hear if Meeting records mention him and his preaching.His descendant Samuel M Janney wrote a book detailing the facts and American descendants, but not much about Thomas's time and success at evangelizing. I think there are probably other converts that emmigrated because of what they experienced in GB and the hope of religious freedom in Pennsylvania.
by Susan Herod G2G3 (3.7k points)

Hi Susan. Is your Thomas Janney this one? Janney-61 If so, there is quite a full bio for him. He also falls within the scope of the William Penn and Early Pennsylvania Settlers Project

You are right that quite a number of Quakers went to Pennsylvania.

+4 votes
I am interested in joining the England Quakers Team; I am indirectly related to Margaret Fell, but not entirely sure exactly where our Askew heritage meets.  I am also a (U.S. convinced) Quaker and interested in our heritage simply for that reason as well.
by Jim Sumrall G2G Crew (320 points)
edited by Jim Sumrall
Thank you, James. I have made you a member of the team I will send you a private message.
+3 votes
Yes, I would like to join this English Quaker group please. My ancestor (Edmund Cartledge, Cartledge-33) was a Quaker in Derbyshire/Cheshire area prior to his immigration to Pennsylvania territory in 1682/1683
by Susan Bulla G2G3 (3.4k points)
Thanks, Susan. I am making you a member. I will message you.
+3 votes
I would be interested! I have Quakers in both direct and indirect lines, including Jane Lyon who I believe came over with William Penn's fleet. But my direct Quakers were around Oldham.
by Jade Ryan G2G Crew (570 points)
Thanks, Jade, for your interest. I am giving you the Project membership badge and will send you a private message.

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