WikiTree is just too complicated for me.

+15 votes
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Wikitree has too much to read, too much to learn, there is too much to do and all has to be done in a certain way.

I have been working on computers since about 1987.  Have taken many on-the-job classes.  I just cannot understand this complicated site.  As a result I resign.  

Is there anything I should do before I sign off?  Shall I leave my ancestors on Wikitree?

Jo Masterson
WikiTree profile: Aleš Trtnik
in Genealogy Help by Jo Masterson G2G6 (6.3k points)
Jo, have you thought about working with someone?  There are Mentors who are there to help folk who struggle with the site - and there are also non-Mentor members who are happy to help others find their feet.
Unfortunately Wikitree does not allow you to delete anyone once they've been put up on the site.
Jo, you have made over a 1000 contributions. I think Melanie is correct and working with a mentor might be just what you need to get you through a rough patch.

If you have made up your mind then here are the instructions about closing your account: https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Help:Closing_an_Account
Melanie Paul, I wanted to join WikiTree for two reasons.  I had helped two adoptees find their birth parents.  Got such satisfaction I wanted to help others. I was told so-and-so will help you.  I wrote to her twice and received no reply.  I kept busy adding my ancestors and adopting others who my be distantly related.  

I am just so tired of making mistakes that I do not know how to correct.
Jo, we all make mistakes.  If you have specific issues, you can always ask in g2g.  If you don't feel comfortable posing in public, you can private message me and - if I can - I will help.   
(I am an Australian, back living in Australia after almost 25 years in the US.  My "expertise' (where I am most comfortable) is with Australian records, then England, Scotland, and US records.  I am less comfortable with records in Wales and Ireland, but usually manage ok.)
If you do step back, Jo, I'd encourage you not to go so far as to close your account.  You have a brick wall on here that someone might someday be able to help you with.  If you don't have an account they wouldn't be able to contact you and let you know what they'd found.
I HAVE ASKED A COUPLE PEOPLE FOR ASSISTANCE, BUT RECEIVED NO REPLY.
I have asked a couple people for assistance and have received no response.  Part of my problem is I dove into Wikitree trying to do it all.
Jo, Melanie offered to help you. I will most certainly help you in anyway I can but not until after the 25th. I'm supposed to be cleaning right now...ugh.
Melanie, Thank you for the offer.  I will most certainly take you up on it next year after Jan. 1. 1924

Sounds good.  We should all take this time to slow down and enjoy the festive season.  Catch you in the New Year! smiley

7 Answers

+17 votes
Stay with it a while longer. You will get the hang of it.
by James Utley G2G1 (1.7k points)
+20 votes

I am a fairly new user, and can relate to this.  Would urge you to reconsider, though. I noticed a lot of Thank Yous on your profile-- you are helping people.

by K. Price G2G6 Mach 1 (14.6k points)
K Price, thank you for your words of encouragement.
+23 votes
There is a lot to learn, and some of the help pages are not particularly well written.
 A lot of us have had the same experience, and asking questions here or on the Discord channel is a great way to find answers.
 Wikitree is complex, probably because it has so many features, you don't have to resign, you can stay a member but be less active or entirely quiet for a while.
 Sounds like you are making a valuable contribution, and the thank-yous are evidence that that is appreciated.
by Gary Burgess G2G6 Mach 8 (83.9k points)
Thank you Gary Burgess, yes WikiTree is complicated and I expected to jump right in and thought I know everything so I got involved in everything.  Surprise, surprise I have to work at it, and ask for help.
+17 votes

Jo, I've looked at a few of your profiles, and I must say, you're doing a commendable job. I'm not sure what specific challenges you might be facing, but it's important to know there's no perfect or singular way to format your family tree. Each person approaches it slightly differently.

One thing I find particularly appealing about Wikitree, unlike other ancestry platforms, is the flexibility it offers. You can contribute as much or as little as you like, leaving it open for others to build upon. I genuinely see value in what you've accomplished so far, and it would be a shame to see you leave. I truly hope you reconsider.

by Jimmy Honey G2G6 Pilot (164k points)
Jimmy Honey, thank you for the compliment and the advise.  I will try a little longer.

You do have the sweetest last name!
+18 votes

Hi Jo, 

I am just so tired of making mistakes that I do not know how to correct.

I wondered whether the reason you tagged Aleš is that you're struggling specifically with the things on your suggestions list?  

I stumbled into some of your profiles a while back and came away with the impression that you are both a thorough and competent researcher, and a thorough and competent WT-er.  The sort of WT-er, in fact, who looks at her suggestions list and tries to fix it.  WikiTree is complicated, and the suggestions list is one of it's least accessible bits, at least for those of us who aren't actual code-writing computer geeks.  A lot of people choose to ignore or perhaps not even know about their suggestions list, or leave it to someone else to fix things for them.  And it's OK to do that, if you're finding this part of WT hard, because you clearly make a wonderful contribution in other ways. 

Looking at your list now, it looks like you've had the really frustrating and dispiriting experience of fixing things and then having them reappear as if you haven't?  And it sounds like you've asked for help, and it hasn't been forthcoming, which is also pretty dispiriting.  

I'm no data doctor, and some of these are problems I haven't had to deal with, but I think I might be able to help with the third one on the list - the unique name suggestion for Vimazal-1.  I think if you go to the suggestions list, click on status for this one and select "false suggestion (hide forever)" and then click update status, it will go away.  But not until a week on Tuesday (and maybe longer because of Christmas) because these lists only update once a week, and they work on data from before the weekend.  

If it is your suggestions list you're struggling with, maybe some other people can come up with solutions to some of the other items?  I know I will learn something, as well as you, if they do.  

by L Parr G2G6 Mach 3 (30.8k points)

It's been pointed out that most normal people don't read their suggestions list, they see the suggestions and error messages at the bottom of the page when they edit a profile. (Apparently I am blind to these). 

So if this is you, then for Vimazal-1, you *probably* need to mark the suggestion at the bottom of the edit page as "false", although to me that's not at all intuitive.  (It's been discussed before on here -at some length - and apparently it means the suggestion is a "false error" and that everything is fine).  

Agne Vimazal is the maiden name of my paternal great grandmother.  Under "Sources" I state her name is in church and synagogue books 1592-1910.
Yes it is mostly the suggestion list I struggle with.  When to use this <ref> and this </ref> and when not to and why.  Also, I want to honor my military ancestors with veterans stickers, but I either use the incorrect ones or something. As a result I just deleted all of them.

Ref tags are wrapped around a citation.  

<ref> is an opening tag.  

</ref> is a closing tag.  

Missing a closing tag will cause problems that are easy to fix by editing and adding the </ref>.

So you may have something like...

John was born in Hoylake, Cheshire in 1824. <ref>--- Splendid citation goes here ---</ref>

This makes the citation appear as a footnote. 

If you want to use the same citation again, give the first instance of the citation a name, and use a 'self-closing tag' with the name of the citation the next time you use it (see below).  The slash closes the tag.

John was born in Hoylake, Cheshire in 1824. <ref name="birth">--- Splendid citation goes here ---</ref> 

John's father, Bob, was a sailor.<ref name="birth" />

Never use <ref> tags in the Sources section (below the <references /> tag).  If you put any citations down there, precede them with an asterisk.  When you have a mix of inline citations and citations in the Sources section, precede those in the Sources section with 'See also:'.

i.e.

== Sources == 

<references />

See also:

* An extra splendid citation.

* Another extra splendid citation.

I hope that helps.
Thank You Ian Beacall!
+3 votes
Hi jo i was so flustered at first because I dissacoate when Im Highly stressed. Ive had a number of people realize that I am needing extra help since our son was killed.  Rob Pavy, even helped me. adding to my dads. profile  The Videos on You Tube for beginners have helped me too. He has a Wikitree Sourcer you can add to your browser to help with sources  I asked for private assistance then had the courage to ask the g2g Group  They are so kind.  You have a step up on most of us with computers.   PLEASE dont quit .  You will be helped here. Good Luck!
by Gerry Hopkins G2G4 (4.2k points)
Thank You Gerry Hopkins!
+4 votes
As a newbie, I found Wikitree's learning curve to be pretty steep. I had started a tree on another site some time ago, but that was not a public tree, and thus no one could question and correct my mistakes (of which I had many, I have to admit). During the COVID lockdowns I decided to take the leap and migrate over to Wikitree. Again, it was a steep learning curve, but I kept plugging away, and I did learn a lot.

One thing I noticed almost immediately was that when folks messaged me to let me know of an error, they were always unfailingly polite about it. In one instance I learned that the surnames "Hoar" and "Eure" are unrelated. I had stacked up quite a boatload of presumed Eure ancestors, with one unsourced leap to someone named Hoar (a known ancestor of mine). The folks gently explained to me that despite about 95 percent of the Internet claiming that Hoar and Eure are just variant spellings of the same family name, it isn't true. And they offered information that made a very convincing case for those two families not being related. This was a good example of how many people creating family trees just copy stuff from other people's trees without checking sources. In my earliest days I too was guilty of that.

Since people set me a good example with their politeness, when someone went in and changed my third great-grandfather (for whom I had sources) to someone else, on the basis of just a couple of Findagrave profiles (which are not always reliable), I politely referred him to the sources I had tracked down for my ancestor, and asked if he had any other sources for the other guy. I didn't think he would, because I had searched as exhaustively as I knew how and didn't find any. I never did hear back from him, and I changed everything back to my real ancestor. I also put an "Important announcement" at the top of the Notes section of my 3rd great grandmother's profile (as she was the one who was alleged to have had a different husband) explaining briefly how I arrived at which man was my true 3rd great grandfather. I requested that if anyone had reliable information to the contrary, they should contact me.

All that to say, the Wikitree family is (with a few rare exceptions) a great group of people to work with. I've asked a ton of questions on this forum, and other members have taken the time to find answers and get back to me. I've learned a lot in the process, and I'm not making the mistakes I used to, but I still have a long way to go before I would dare to think of myself as any kind of expert. And I've actually been able to help a few people along the way, folks who asked question I actually had answers for.

As others have said, you are of course free to step back or step out... but I just wanted to tell my own experience, because if I can get past the learning curve, anyone can!
by Carolyn Comings G2G6 Mach 5 (53.6k points)
Thank you Carolyn Comings!

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