Richard Talbot (aft. 1065 - aft. 1100)

Born after 1065 in Badleslane, Bedfordshire, England

Ancestors

Husband of Amicie (Gournay) Talbot — married [date unknown] in Mandeville, Calvados, Basse-Normandie, France

Descendants

Died after 1100 at about age 35 in Battlesden, Bedfordshire, England

Richard II Talbot (b. 1065/1075 - d. after 1100).[6]

Biography

This profile is part of the Talbot Name Study.

Richard Talbot was born in Bedfordshire, England.

In 1086, a Richard Talbot is recorded in Domesday (Beds).^[1] Burke (1852), calls him the first notable of his family and explains that he held nine, "hides of land from Walter Gifford, Earl of Buckingham,"^[2] while Talbot (1874), also citing Domesday, states the Bedford holding came from Walter Giffard, Baron of Bolbec.^[3]

Cawley (2006), however, thinks there were two men named, Richard Talbot. He believes that the RIchard in Domesday died some time after 1186;[7] while another -- of unconnected and uncertain relation -- who was born around the time or maybe a decade after the Conquest ... is the man who married the daughter of Gerard de Gournay.[8]

Parents

It should be noted that while Powel (1899), claims that the father of Richard in Domesday, was a William ... Burke (1852) and Cawley (2006), make no attempt to attach him to a set of parents.

Marriage

Burke (1852) and Powlett (1899), both state that Richard's wife was a daughter of Gerard de Gournay, but they don't name her.^[2] Cawley (2006), asserts she was Amacie.

All three authors state that the couple had two sons, but they only agree on the identity of Hugh. Depending on source, his birth date ranges anywhere from c. 1078 to before 1100.

As for the other son, his identity is called into question.

While authors like Burke (1852) and Powel (1899), assert that Richard had a son Geoffrey, Cawley (2006), disputes this and makes him the son of Geoffrey (b. 1050/65? - d. ante 1130), who is recorded in Domesday.[9] He names William as the second son, quoting a charter, dated 1181/3, proving that the two sons were Hugh and William:

"Richardi Tallebot et Amicie uxoris eius et Hugonis et Willelmi filiorum suorum..."

While acknowledging the Geoffrey in Domesday, Powlett (1899), asserts that he was RIchard's brother. She goes on to state that Geoffrey II (d. 22 Aug 1140 or abt. 1140), is instead the son of Richard, and describes him as a partisan of Empress Maud (b. 1101/2 - d. 1167), who was also the ancestor of:

• the Talbots of Bashall;
• and Hugh, constable of Plessey castle in Essex, who became a monk at Beaubec during his later years; and is also the ancestor of the Earls of Shrewsbury.^[4][5]

Elsewhere ... Gurney (1845) and Gardener (1917), make Richard as both father and brother, of Geoffreys, and the son of "Le Sire Talbot".^[6]

Sources

• Burke, J.B. (1852). A Genealogical and Heraldic Dictionary of the Peerage and Baronetage of the British Empire. Colburn. Google Books.

• Cawley, C. (2006). "Richard II Talbot (1065/1075-after 1100)." Medieval Lands v.4. Fmg.ac. Web.[10]

• Gurney, D. (1845). The record of the house of Gournay, 1, p 70. Google Books.

• Gardener, J. (1917). The English ancestry of Peter Talbot of Dorchester, Mass, p 2-3. Boston, MA. Archive.org.

• Hanks, P., Coates, R. & McClure, P. (2016). "Talbot," in The Oxford Dictionary of Family Names in Britain and Ireland, pp. 2619. Oxford University Press. Google Books.^[7]

• "Talbot," (1874). The Norman People and their Existing Descendants in the British Dominions and the United States of America, pp. 412. London: Henry S. King & Co. [11]

• Powlett, C.L.W. (1889). The Battle Abbey Roll: With Some Account of the Norman Lineages, 1889, 3, p 164 [12]

Citations and Notes

1. ↑ Hanks, Coates & McClure, 2016, p. 2619.[1]
2. ↑ ^{2.0 2.1} p 897. [2]
3. ↑ p. 412.[3]
4. ↑ p. 164 [4]
5. ↑ see: Cawley, C. (2006). "Geoffrey II Talbot (d. 22 Aug 1140)." Medieval Lands v.4. Fmg.ac.[5]; Wikipedia: Geoffrey Talbot
6. ↑ see also: Wikipedia: Geoffrey Talbot (died 1129)
7. ↑ Richard Talbot, 1086 Domesday (Beds).