Elizabeth Margaret (Turnbull) Hamilton (1846 - 1902)

Born 14 Jun 1846 in St Pancras, London, England

Ancestors

Wife of William Hamilton — married 13 Oct 1873 in Newark, Essex, New Jersey, United States

Died 12 Sep 1902 at age 56 in Sayville, Suffolk, New York, United States

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Biography

Elizabeth was born in 1846. Elizabeth was the child of John Turnball and Isabella Martin^[1] . Elizabeth died in 1902.

Born 14 Jun 1846 London, England ^[2]

Immigrated"" on the "Pennsylvania" to New York, arriving 9th Oct 1873.

shown on the passenger list as 26, about to-be-husband William doesn't seem to have been on the same ship (they married 4 days later).

Family

Husband: William Hamilton

Wife: Elizabeth Margaret Turnbull

Married 13 Oct 1873 Newark, Essex Co., New Jersey, USA

William 24 son of William & Jean Hamilton; Elizabeth M 27, dtr of John Turnbull^[3]

Children:

William Turnbull Hamilton

John Gilbert Hamilton (1875-1876)

John Wylie Hamilton

James Frame Hamilton

Alexander Carlisle Hamilton (1880-1880)

Bessie Martin Hamilton

Jean Hamilton

Gordon Hamilton

Census

1851 Kentish Town, St Pancras, Middlesex, England

TURNBULL: John head, 30, rail clerk b Nicol Forest; wife Isabella 28 b Tedburgh (sic) (Jedburgh assumed); Dtrs: Eliza M 4; Ellen 3; Isabella 9mths all b St Pancras, MDX ^[4]

1861 Caldewgate, Cumberland, England

TURNBULL: John head 38 railway clerk b SCT; (next page) wife Elizabeth (sic) 38 b SCT; Children: Margaret 14; Ellen 12; Elizabeth (sic) 10; Robert 8; (all scholars b MDX, London); John 5 b MDX; Christina 4 b Maryport, CUL(names don't quite gel with previous info: wife and 3rd dtr should be Isabellas instead of Elizabeths). ^[5]

It would also appear that Margaret, Ellen, Robert and Christina were enumerated twice in this census as they appear on their own at Kirkborough, Dearham in a household with no "Head" listed, the 4 children listed as son/dtr with the right birthplaces and ages, and a 55 yr old Lodger Robert Wilson, 55 schoolmaster b Carlisle; and, presumably his dtr, Mabel 8 b Liverpool, LAN

1871 Prospect Pl, Stanwix, Cumberland, Englad

TURNBULL: Isabella head, mar, 52 b SCT; Children: Margaret 24 dressmaker b Campden Town, MDX; Robert 18 bookbinder's apprentice b Campden Town, MDX; John 16 saddler's apprentice b Campben Town, MDX; (next page) Christina 13 scholar b Maryport, CUL ^[6]

1875 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States

1880 Brooklyn, Kings, New York, United States

1900 Brooklyn, Kings Co., New York, USA

HAMILTON: William 52 b. Jun 1848 Scotland both parents b. Scotland; wife Elizabeth M 54 b. Jun 1846 England, both parents b. England; Children: William T 26 b. Jul 1874 NY, John W 23 b. Dec 1876, James F 21 b. Aug 1878, Bessie M 18 b. Feb 1881, Jessie H 16 b. Aug 1883, Gordon 13 b. Mar. 1887, all b. NY Father b. Scotland Mother b. England ^[7]

Research notes

A small DNA match, with associated Ancestry ThruLines hint suggested that Elizabeth emigrated to New York, USA in 1873, married a William Hamilton and died in NY in 1902.

Although I've not found conclusive proof that these two Elizabeth Margaret Turnbull's, with father John and definitively one and the same, it does look plausible.

For the prosecution:

Both are born Jun 1846 England

Elizabeth has not been found in English records after the 1871 census

US census data shows parents born England, well nearly correct, her mother should show Scotland

Children have interesting middle names that reflect this family history

Gilbert is Elizabeth's maternal grandfather's first name

Carlisle is where Elizabeth was living

Martin is Elizabeth's mother's maiden name

Information it would be good to find

Does anyone know the occupation for the New York Elizabeth's father John? Would that be on the full Jersey marriage record? Henderson-2297 23:31, 2 April 2020 (UTC)

Disambiguation

Some trees show the Elizabeth married to William Hamilton as the daughter of a John Turnbull, master tailor and his wife Elizabeth Whiteside.

However that family are in the 1855 and 1860 New York census records, and the 1900 census shows this Elizabeth as emigrating about 1874.

Sources

1. ↑ As researched by Heather Douglas, Thursday, June 5, 2014.
2. ↑ Birth recorded Regent Sq Scotch Church, St Pancras as Elizabeth Margret, d/o John TURNBULL and Isabella (no surname) IGI Batch C097741 1822 - 1856 0825329 (RG4 4312) Film 6904069
3. ↑ "New Jersey Marriages, 1678-1985", database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FZLS-MPR : 20 January 2020), William Hamilton, 1873.
4. ↑ Source #S1: 1851 Kentish Town, Pancras, MDX Dist 1p HO107/1498 Folio 515 Page 1 Schedule #3,hsehold of John & Isabella TURNBULL
5. ↑ 1861 Census: Caldewgate, CUL Dist 16 RG9/3921 Folio 71 Pages 44/5 Schedule #233, hsehold of John and Elizabeth (sic) TURNBULL, image available Ancestry.com
6. ↑ 1871 census: Stanwix, CUL Dist 1 RG10/5223 Folio 9 Page 11 Schedule #60, hsehold of Isabella TURNBULL
7. ↑ "United States Census, 1900," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MSF6-K3R : accessed 3 April 2020), William & Elizabeth Hamilton, Borough of Brooklyn, Election District 2 New York City Ward 8, Kings, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) 91, sheet 16A, family 328, NARA microfilm publication T623 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1972.); FHL microfilm 1,241,047.

• "Family Tree," database, FamilySearch (http://familysearch.org : modified 03 April 2020, 02:46), entry for Elizabeth Margaret Turnbull(PID https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/4:1:MSGN-961); contributed by various users.