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John Telfer (abt. 1740)

John Telfer
Born about in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotlandmap
Son of [father unknown] and [mother unknown]
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Profile last modified | Created 4 Jun 2017
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Biography

John Telfer was born about 1740 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. The date and place of birth is estimated based on the birth year and place of his daughter.

John married Helen Geddis before early 1763 based on the birth date of their first child, Thomas [citation needed].

John and Helen had 7 children:

  1. Thomas born on 1 January 1764 and baptised on 2 January 1764 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.[1]
  2. James born on 9 September 1765 and baptised on 1 September 1765 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. Died before 1778[2]
  3. Elizabeth Telfer baptised on 29 Oct 1767 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.[3]
  4. Janet baptised on 20 June 1771 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.[4]
  5. John born on 16 February 1776 and baptised on 18 February 1776 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.[5]
  6. James Telfer baptised on 31 May 1778 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.[6]
  7. Helen baptised on 18 July 1784 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.[7]

Research Notes

  • A search of ScotlandsPeople.com's old parish registers for births and baptism using Tel* for the surname and the wild card allowed option, for the date range 1736 to 1748 with county set to Dumfries, gives three possible canditates. The only one born in Canonbie was baptised 1748, which would make him 16 at the birth of his first child. A more likely candidate was a John Telford, baptised 14 March 1739 in Eskdalemuir, son of George Telford and Margaret Young[8]. This John Telford[8] and the Helen Geddies born 1740 in Eskdalemuir[9] would likely have grown up knowing each other (and were possibly cousins, as their mothers had the same surname). I have not changed either this profile or Helen's to reflect this speculation, since there is no available record for the marriage, nor is there any record to explain the move to Canonbie. Graham-17201 18:21, 12 June 2022 (UTC)

Sources

  1. Child Baptism: "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: XYQL-PB3 (accessed 11 June 2022)
    Thomas Telfer baptism on 2 Jan 1764 (born 1), son of John Telfer & Helen Geddus, in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
  2. Child Baptism: "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: XT12-6B6 (accessed 11 June 2022)
    James Telford baptism on 1 Sep 1765 (born 9), son of John Telford & Helen Geddis, in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
  3. Child Baptism: "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: XB5G-XMD (accessed 11 June 2022)
    Helen Geddis's child Elizabeth Telford baptism on 29 Oct 1767 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland. Father's name: John Telford.
  4. Child Baptism: "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: XB5G-6L1 (accessed 11 June 2022)
    Janet Telfer baptism on 20 Jun 1771, daughter of John Telfer & Helen Geddis, in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
  5. Child Baptism: "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: XYQL-2JF (accessed 11 June 2022)
    John Telfer baptism on 18 Feb 1776 (born 16 Feb 1776), son of John Telfer & Helen Geddis, in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
  6. Child Baptism: "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: XYW2-DG4 (accessed 11 June 2022)
    Helen Geddis's child James Telfer baptism on 31 May 1778 in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
  7. Baptism: "Scotland Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950"
    FamilySearch Record: XB5G-6L5 (accessed 11 June 2022)
    Helen Telfer baptism on 18 Jul 1784, daughter of John Telfer & Helen Geddis, in Canonbie, Dumfriesshire, Scotland.
  8. 8.0 8.1 National Records Of Scotland at ScotlandsPeople.com Old Parish Registers: Births and Baptisms Citing Name: TELFORD, JOHN; Parents: GEORGE TELFORD/MARGRAT YOUNG; Sex: F; Date: 14/03/1739; Parish #: 824/ ; Ref: 10 19; Parish : Eskdalemuir. [Accessed 12 jUNE 2022]
  9. National Records Of Scotland at ScotlandsPeople.com Old Parish Registers: Births and Baptisms Citing Name: GEDDIES, HELEN; Parents: JOHN GEDDIES/JANE YOUNG; Sex: F; Date: 28/10/1740; Parish #: 824/ ; Ref: 10 23; Parish : Eskdalemuir. [Accessed 12 jUNE 2022]




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I have a different theory - John Telfoord was born in Canonbie in 1748 (as stated), but he married a Jean Armstrong in 1776 - just 6 months before Elizabeth (Betty) Telfer was born (John & Jean were fined a huge 10s 6d for an 'irregular marriage' stated in Canonbie Kirk Session Minutes 14 July 1776. There is a entry in the Banns & Marriages Register for 14 June 1776 and I wonder if this was for the Banns and they decided they didn't want to wait for the actual marriage in the church so just 'declared'. However, it also leads onto the fact that there is an entry for Elizabeth (Betty) Telfer, born in Canonbie on 11 Dec 1776. She is the first of at least 4 children.
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