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Ellen (Sale) Tyler (bef. 1568 - bef. 1611)

Ellen Tyler formerly Sale
Born before in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, Englandmap
Daughter of and
Wife of — married 12 Nov 1599 in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, Englandmap
Descendants descendants
Died before at about age 42 in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, Englandmap
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Biography

Ellen Sale [or Saale], daughter of John, was baptised on 7 November 1568 in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England.[1][2]

Ellen married William Tiler on 12 November 1599 in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England.[3][2] He had been a servant of her brother Edward Sale.[2]

They had daughter Abigail, baptised 20 Jan 1604/05.[2]

Ellen was buried on 23 July 1611 in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England.[4][2]

Sources

  1. Baptism: "Buckinghamshire Baptism Index"
    Archive: College Of Arms; Page: 27
    FindMyPast Image - FindMyPast Transcription (accessed 11 December 2021)
    Ellen Saale baptism on 7 Nov 1568, daughter of Jo, in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 "Sale of Chesham, Co. Bucks", p.101 in "English Origins of New England Families, From The New England Historical and Genealogical Register", Vol. I (Genealogical Publishing, Baltimore, 1984). https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/48555/
  3. Marriage: "England, Select Marriages, 1538-1973"
    Ancestry au Record 9852 #21210673 (accessed 11 December 2021)
    Ellen Saale marriage to William Tiler on 12 Nov 1599 in Chesham, Buckingham, England.
  4. Burial: "Buckinghamshire Burial Index"
    Archive: Buckinghamshire Archives; Reference: D/A/T/42; Page: -
    FindMyPast Transcription (accessed 11 December 2021)
    Ellen Tiler burial on 23 Jul 1611 in Chesham, Buckinghamshire, England.

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The marriage took place at St. Mary's, in Chesham, Bucks. The Bishop's transcript notes that the bride was "the widow Ellen Saale," and that the groom was the "late Servant to Edward Sale," suggesting that William Tiler (Tyler) married his late boss's widow. And indeed, an earlier transcript entry reports the marriage 20 October 1589 at St. Mary's of Edward, son of the widow Saale, and Elizab., daughter of John Gifforde. I realize that if the widow Ellen Sale of the 1599 marriage record and "Elizab." (Gifford) Sale are the same person, then the Ellen Sale who was chr. in 1568, the daughter of John and Agnes Sale, would not have been the wife of William Tyler.
posted by Barry Wood
Interesting thought. But Edward died in 1620, so his wife would not be "widow" at the time of the 1599 marriage of Ellen Sale with William Tyler. An alternative hypothesis is that Ellen Sale had a prior short marriage - she was 31 years old at the time of the 1599 marriage.
posted by Paul Gierszewski
Good point; I agree that Ellen was not the widow of the Edward who survived to 1620. But she was the widow of SOMEBODY, so I still suspect that Sale is a married name for her, and not a maiden name. For example, it seems as though Edward had a couple of brothers whose situation is unknown subsequent to their christenings; no burial record, and if they married, likely it would have been in some other parish. If one of them married Ellen _____ and then passed away, it wouldn't be the first time that a widow found solace in the arms of an employee of her quondam brother in law.
posted by Barry Wood
Ellen's maiden name is given as Shirley by some researchers.
posted on Sale-239 (merged) by Michael Tyler

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