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Robert (Quincy) de Quincy (abt. 1190 - 1217)

Robert de Quincy formerly Quincy
Born about in Englandmap
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Husband of — married before 1200 in Englandmap [uncertain]
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Died at about age 27 in London, Englandmap
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Biography

Robert de Quincy was the first son and heir apparent to Saher de Quincy, 1st Earl of Winchester and Magna Carta Baron, by Margaret de Beaumont, aka Margaret of Leicester.[1][2] His date of birth unknown and is estimated to be about 1190. His birthplace is also unknown.

Robert was probably the ""Reginald" (sic), son of the Earl of Winchester, who was a hostage for the King of Scotland in 1213, in which year the Earl was granted an aid from his tenants for knighting his eldest son."[2]

He may have been the Earl's son who was in Poitou in 1214, and he was excommunicated by the Pope in December 1215, along with his father.[2]

Marriage and Children

Robert married around 1197-1200 (the date of the marriage charter) to Hawise of Chester, suo jure Countess of Lincoln, daughter of Hugh, Earl of Chester, and Bertrade de Montfort.[1] They had one daughter.
  • Margaret (or Margery), born before 1217 (father's death), married first to John de Lacy, Knt., Earl of Lincoln and Magna Carta surety baron, with whom she had four children. She married second to Walter Marshal, Knt., 8th Earl of Pembroke, and third to Richard de Wiltshire.[1]
Robert's wife, Hawise, had "10 librates of land in Waddington, land in Sibsey, and the service of three fees in Cabourn in marriage."[1]

Death and Burial

Robert died in London in 1217,[1] having been accidentally poisoned through medicine prepared by a Cistercian monk.[2][3] He was buried in Clerkenwell, Middlesex, at the Church of the Hospitallers,[1] and it is said that his heart was buried with that of his mother at Brackley.[2] After his death, Hawise granted a rent to the brethren of the Hospital of Jerusalem in England for the foundation of a chantry at the Hospitallers house at Clerkenwell, for the soul of her husband, Robert.[1]
The Church of the Hospitallers was actually known as the Priory and Church of the Knights Hospitallers of St. John of Jerusalem, Clerkenwell, London. It was of the monastic order of the same name, with Clerkenwell as its English headquarters, being consecrated in 1185. In 1723 it was known as St. John's Clerkenwell and by the 18th century was largely in ruins. The only remains now are a reconstructed gate known as St. John's Gate in St. John's Square, London.[4]

Research Notes

Robert was never Earl of Lincoln - the title was removed from this profile on 20 Dec 2019.

Sources

  1. 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011), vol. III, pages 407-408, QUINCY 1.i.
  2. 2.0 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 Cokayne, George Edward and Geoffrey White ed. Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Vol. XII part 2: Tracton to Zouche, 2nd edition. (1916), online at FamilySearch, page 751, note d and page 750 note j.
  3. Cawley, Charles. Robert de Quincy, entry in "Medieval Lands" database (accessed 20 Dec 2019): Earls of Winchester, 1207-1264 (QUINCY).
  4. Wikipedia: Clerkenwell Priory.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Magna Carta Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 4 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. 2nd edition. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2011). See also WikiTree's source page for Magna Carta Ancestry.
  • Richardson, Douglas. Royal Ancestry: A Study in Colonial and Medieval Families, 5 vols., ed. Kimball G. Everingham. (Salt Lake City, UT: the author, 2013). See also WikiTree's source page for Royal Ancestry.
See also:
  • Richardson, Royal Ancestry, (2013), vol. II, page 154.
  • Richardson, Royal Ancestry, (2013), vol. IV, pages 435-437, 441-442.
  • Hulton, William A. The Coucher Book or Cartulary of Whalley Abbey. Vol. I. (printed for The Chetham Society, 1846), online at Archive.org, vol. 1, page 8.
  • Wikipedia: Hawise of Chester, 1st Countess of Lincoln

Acknowledgements

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Magna Carta Project

This profile was re-reviewed and approved on 20 Dec 2019 by Thiessen-117.
Robert de Quincy is the son of Magna Carta surety baron Saher de Quincy. He is in trails badged by the Magna Carta Project to the following Gateway Ancestors:
Robert de Quincy is also in unbadged trails (needing work) to the following Gateways:
  • Blakiston Gateways (Nehemiah and George): needs development. See the trail HERE.
  • Need Gateways (Mary and Joseph) (MCA II:221-223 NEED): Levis trail badged in February 2020. The trails can be seen HERE (see Levis). 3 profiles need development.
See the project's glossary for project-specific terms, such as a "badged trail". See Base Camp for information about identified trails and their status.




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http://www.medievalgenealogy.org.uk/cp/winchester.shtml#p748 gives an interesting read on why the Quincy lands did not go to Robert's daughter, Margaret.
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