Sir Nicholas Mander 4th Bt
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Sir Nicholas Mander 4th Bt

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Sir Nicholas N. Mander 4th Bt
Born 1950s.
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Brother of [private sister (1940s - unknown)] and [private brother (1950s - unknown)]
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Father of [private daughter (1970s - unknown)], [private son (1970s - unknown)], [private son (1970s - unknown)], [private son (1980s - unknown)] and [private son (1980s - unknown)]
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Biography

Sir Nicholas was born in 1950. He is the son of Charles Mander and Maria Brödermann.

Sir Nicholas is a Knight of Grace and Devotion of the Sovereign Military and Hospitaler Order of Malta, of Rhodes and of Jerusalem.

SIr Nicholas is a Knight Jure Sanguinis of the Constantinian Order of St George.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicholas_Mander


Sources

1. First-hand information. Entered by Nicholas Mander at registration.

2. Nicholas Mander, Borromean Rings: The Genealogy of the Mander Family, Owlpen Press, 2011.

3. Mosley, Charles, editor, Burke's Peerage, Baronetage & Knightage, 107th edition, 3 volumes (Burke's Peerage (Genealogical Books) Ltd, 2003), volume 2, page 2361, for Mander baronetcy of the Mount [U.K.], cr. 1911. This is the best edition, updated with contributions by Nicholas Mander.

4. Nicholas Mander. Varnished Leaves: a biography of the Mander family of Wolverhampton. Owlpen Press, 2004.

5. History of Mander Brothers, Whitehead Brothers, 1952 [n.d.]

6. Kidd, Charles, Williamson, David (editors). Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage. London: Macmillan, 1995

7. Debrett's Distinguished People of Today, 1990

9. Who's Who. An annual biographical dictionary. 162nd Year of Issue. London: A & C Black Publishers, 2010

10. Who's Who in Catholic Life, 2012 et seq. eds

11. 'The Mander Pedigree with proofs of original genealogical evidence from Robert of Lapworth b. 1681' was registered at the College of Arms (Norfolk 22/120) for 6 Apr 1904, and updated with the descent from Charles Tertius Mander b. 1852 to the present day recorded in 2012 under College reference Norfolk 51/221 (cross-referenced to Norfolk 22/120; Surrey 20/78; Surrey 22/72).

12. Unpublished Mander Family Tree, Nov 1993, based on research of John Osborn, OBE, using primary sources, with contributions from Monica Carolan (d. 2002) for sub-medieval Maunders/ Manders and some New Zealand descents. N.B. Monica Carolan's research papers and notes (notably on the Mander and Amphlett families) are believed to be in the Library of the Society of Genealogists, London. The Society holds birth briefs and records of various members of the family, including Gerald Poynton Mander, FSA, who was the pioneer of Mander family genealogical studies based on original sources of genealogical evidence, and William Townsend Jackson Gun (d. 1946), joint editor Genealogists’ Mag., 1928–42.


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Author of Borromean Rings: the Genealogy of the Mander Family. Owlpen Press, 2011, 220pp.

This includes genealogies of Mander, baronets of The Mount, Staffordshire [U.K., 1911]; Mander of Toddenham, Glos, and Bakewell, Derbyshire; Manders of Dublin; Paint and le Mesurier of Guernsey and Nova Scotia; Weaver and Davies-Colley of Cheshire; Narayan, Maharajahs of Cooch Behar, India; Neame, Austen, Nethersole, Tufton, Denne of Denne, all of Kent; Harding of St Jamess, London, of Hornchurch, Essex, and of Jamaica; Yarner and Temple of Dublin; Cotterill of Birmingham; Stapledon of Bideford, Devon; Gibbon of Roxwell, Essex; Broedermann and Kunhardt of Hamburg; Stoerzel and Passow of Mecklenburg; Redo, Balmaceda and Ontiveros of Sinaloa, Mexico, and of Spain; Herbert (Jones) of Llanarth, Gwent; Hall of Llanover, Gwent; Plunkett, lords of Killeen, Ireland; Lane Fox of Bramham, Yorks; Haffenden of Bloomsbury and Kent; Dalley of Stamford, Lincs; MacSweeny (Swiney) of co. Cork; Norin of Skaraborg, Sweden; Christopher Columbus Mexican descent; etc.

Other families researching include: Daunt and Stoughton of Owlpen. Clemson of Wolverhampton. Hanbury of Kidderminster, co. Worcs. Dutton of Hatton, co. Chester. Dockendorff of Prince Edward Island, Canada. Wright and Barton Wright of Newcastle and Northumberland. Clark of Belford Hall, Northumberland. Parr of Grappenhall Heyes, co. Chester, and co. Lancaster. Barton of Smithills Hall, co. Lancaster, of Stapleton Park, co. York and of Saxby Hall, co. Lancaster. Forlong of Lanarkshire and of Australia.


DNA

Paternal and maternal relationships are confirmed by a GEDmatch test match between Nicholas Mander GEDmatch A306471 and his sister GEDmatch A525819. Their most-recent common ancestors are their parents Charles Mander and Dolores Brödermann. Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 1.3 based on sharing 2478.6 cM across 60 segments.

My own patrilinear ancestry is predicted by Y-chromosone (MSY) testing to derive from an ancient phylogenic haplogroup E, indicative of an origin in the Horn of Africa about 26,000 years ago. Its subclade E1b1b1a (formerly E-V68) appears in the Palaeolithic in the Red Sea and Lake Nubia region, about 23,000 years ago. From there one’s male ancestors are likely to have followed the Nile Valley over the generations to Egypt and Libya, where subclade E1b1b1a1d (E-V65) emerges, ‘associated with the Maghreb’. Then by a long process of migration in the Neolithic this subclade disperses into the Mediterranean. The route to Britain (presumably) through Iberia and France is complex, but the subclade is apparently rare in Midland England, where this branch of the Mander family is first recorded in Tredington, co. Worcester, in the time of Pope Nicholas IV (Taxatio, c. 1288) by c. 1280. See below.


Mander of Tredington

TREDYNTONE. Johannes Maundwer tenet dimidium virgatem per servitum ijs. vid. per annum ad predictos iiij terminus, et debit per omnia sicut predictus Nicholas.

Ref.:The Red Book of the Bishopric of Worcestershire, transcribed from a lost volume by Dr W. Thomas in the eighteenth century [PRO], ed Margery Hollings, Worcs. Historical Soc., London, 1934–50, vol. 3, p. 284.


My Ancestors Research Statistics

My Ancestors Research Statistics
BY GENERATION
Gen. No. Relation to SJ Baty Total Possible Profiles On Wikitree Sourced Biography Genealogically Defined
1Self11111
2Parent22222
3Grandparent44442 (50%)
4Great Grandparent88885 (63%)
52nd Great Grandparent161616167 (44%)
63rd Great Grandparent30 (-2)*303020 (67%)11 (37%)
74th Great Grandparent60 (-4)*37 (62%)3740 (67%)6 (10%)
85th Great Grandparent120 (-8)*45 (38%)4531 (69%)2 (4%)
96th Great Grandparent240 (-16)*40 (16%)4018 (45%) 6 (15%)
107th Great Grandparent480 (-32)*29 (6%)26 (90%)16 (55%)2 (7%)
118th Great Grandparent960 (-64)*29 (3%)27 (93%)17 (67%)0 (0%)
  • Total number of possible ancestors reduced due to pedigree collapse.

Coat of Arms

Gules, on a pile invected erminois, three annulets interlaced, two and one of the field.

Crest: On a wreath of the colours, a demi-lion couped ermine holding in the paws two annulets interlaced fessewise gules, between two buffalo horns of the last.

Mantling: Gules and or.

Motto: Vive Bene.

Livery: Blue, yellow facings, brass buttons.

Grant 72/174 to Charles Tertius Mander confirmed by Sir Arthur William Woods, Garter, and George Edward Cockayne, Clarenceux, Heraldic College, 30 May 1901, with extended limitation to descendants of Charles Benjamin Mander and Samuel Small Mander.

Ermine three Annulets interlaced gules occurs as arms for Mandere in Smith’s Ordinary (1599); the shield was confirmed by Edward Bysshe, Garter, to Thomas Maundy [als Maunder, of Cornelly, Cornwall] in 1657, together with the grant of a crest. These were confirmed with differences by Walker, 1660.

Erm. three annulets, interlaced in triangle, gules, is given for Mander in T. Robinson, The British Herald, 1830. They occur as used by Roger Mander, Master of Balliol College, Oxford, on plate he donated to Charlton Marshall church, Dorset (of which parish he was rector), in 1696; Mander impaling Taylor in Todenham Church, Gloucestershire (Bigland); and by John Mander of Bakewell and Derby, attorney (‘A Derbyshire Armory’, in The Reliquary, 1866, vol. 6, p. 39). R.H. Ellis, Cat. of Seals in the PRO [1972] shows a shield of Simon Mondidiers with three annulets interlaced as early as 1367.

Arms with the three annulets interlaced were adopted by Mander of Wolverhampton with a crest of a the demi-lion rampant holding three annulets by c. 1860.


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WikiTree tools churn up all sorts of idle knowledge.

By its calculations, I am 32nd great-grandson of Charlemagne (Carolingian-77) on my mother’s side and 33rd on my father’s side, with 199,008 known paths of descent from him. I am thirteenth cousin of (and eleven degrees from) Queen Elizabeth II (Windsor-1), with 142 common ancestors; my ancestry.com tree shows her as the second cousin once removed of the living husband of my living niece. I am seventeenth great-grandson of John of Gaunt (Plantagenet-66) on both my mother’s and father’s sides. These relationships may be close to average for most English people.

John of Gaunt was of course the poet Chaucer’s brother-in-law; Payn Roet, his father-in-law, was my eighteenth great-grandfather. Of literary figures, I am seventh cousin four times removed of Jane Austen (Austen-489) and fifth cousin, five times removed of Byron (Byron-127). I am probably more closely descended from William Shakespeare’s family (directly descended from a Shakespeare of Rowington), but the genealogy of his antecedents is notoriously unreliable.



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Marty Acks will be leading the Musty Dusty 2020 Clean-A-Thon Team again this year. I hope you will consider joining us again or for the first time. It is coming up again in 4 short weeks from April 24-26.

If interested, leave a post on this G2G thread https://www.wikitree.com/g2g/1007803/have-you-registered-for-the-2020-spring-clean-a-thon-yet.

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posted by Robin Lee
Congratulations on your Pre-1500 badge. I do want to put some emphasis on the need for Reliable Sources and the use of in-line citations.

Please take a look at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Bradway-260 While this is a contemporary profile, it demonstrates how each statement in the biography is backed up with a reference.

posted by Robin Lee
Hi Nicholas,

I noticed you have been working on pre-1700 profiles using vague references such as "ancestry.com". Ancestry.com contains a very wide variety of information, some acceptable as sources and some not. Our pre-1700 profiles must use reliable sources, according to WikiTree policy.

Without knowing exactly what was referenced, these profiles will be considered as Unsourced. Please update them to indicate where exactly on ancestry.com the information came from -- which database and entry and preferably a link to it. See this page, Help:Links_to_Ancestry, for some convenient ways to do this.

Hope that helps! Joyce Rivette, Ranger on duty

Hi Nicholas,

Thanks for taking the Pre-1700 Quiz!

Because pre-1700 ancestors are shared by many descendants, coordinating with others is essential. You can learn more about joining the community in How To #3 and in the Project FAQ.

Based on your contributions the England Project may fit your research focus. If not, use the Pre-1700 Projects list to review other possibilities. Read the goals and tasks of the projects and join those which are a good fit.

Have questions? Ask in the comments section of my profile.

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posted by Butch Smith
Hello Nicholas,

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