Thomas (Furnival) de Furnival
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Thomas (Furnival) de Furnival (aft. 1200 - abt. 1240)

Sir Thomas "Lord of Hallamshire" de Furnival formerly Furnival
Born after in Sheffield, Yorkshire, Englandmap
Ancestors ancestors
Husband of — married about 1219 [location unknown]
Descendants descendants
Died about before about age 40 in Damietta, Egyptmap
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Biography

Father Sir Gerard de Furnivall, Lord Hallamshire[1] b. c 1174, d. c 12 Apr 1219

Mother Maud de Lovetot b. c 1178, d. a 23 Jun 1247

Thomas de Furnivall, Lord Hallamshire was born after 1200 at of Sheffield, Yorkshire, England.[2]

He married Bertha de Ferrers, daughter of Sir William de Ferrers, 4th Earl Derby & Earl Ferriers, Earl of Chester, Sheriff of Nottinghamshire, Derbyshire, & Lancashire and Agnes of Chester, circa 1221.[3]

They had 2 sons (Sir Gerard; & Sir Thomas) & 2 daughter (Margaret, wife of Hugh de Neville, & of Hugh de Miton; & (unnamed), wife of Sir Roger de Mowbray).[4]

Thomas de Furnivall, Lord Hallamshire died circa 1240 at Damietta, Egypt; Killed by the Saracens.[5]

Family

  • Bertha de Ferrers b. c 1204, d. a 1279

Children

  • Margaret, wife of Hugh de Neville, & of Hugh de Miton
  • (Miss) de Furnival,wife of Sir Roger de Mowbray [6] b. c 1222, d. b 1257
  • Sir Gerard de Furnival b. c 1227, d. b 18 Oct 1261
  • Sir Thomas de Furnivall, Lord Hallamshire b. 1229, d. 12 May 1291

Thomas de Furnival[7]

d. Palestine (ante.1249)[7][8]
bur. Worksop[7]

Early Life

p. Gerard de Furnival and Maud de Lovetot[7]

Family

m. _____. Issue.[7][9]
  • Gerard de Furnival, Lord of Hallamshire (heir) m. Maud.[7][10] No issue.[11]
  • Thomas, Lord of Hallamshire m. Bertha[7]

Sources

  1. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 45.
  2. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 45-46.
  3. Douglas Richardson, Magna Carta Ancestry, 2nd Edition, Vol. I, p. 49.
  4. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. I, p. 164-165.
  5. Douglas Richardson, Royal Ancestry, Vol. III, p. 45-46
  6. Douglas Richardson, Plantagenet Ancestry, p. 529
  7. 7.0 7.1 7.2 7.3 7.4 7.5 7.6 7.7 Holland, J. (1826). The History, Antiquities, and Description of the Town and Parish of Worksop, in the County of Nottingham. (pp.23) Worksop: J.Blackwell. Google Books.
  8. Of Thomas nothing more is known than his being slain by the Saracens in the Holy Land on a pilgrimage. His body was brought home by his brother Gerard and buried at Worksop.[citation needed]
  9. By Bertha, his wife, he had a son and successor, Thomas de Furnival, who had license in the 54th of Henry III to make a castle of his manor house of Sheffield, County York.[citation needed]
  10. Maud's bros: Richard FitzJohn. Maud's father: John FitzGeffrey, justice of Ireland (Holland,1826)
  11. Gerard had no heir, so the barony went to his brother Thomas (Holland,1826)
  12. Father: William de Mowbray (Holland, 1826)
  • Holland, J. (1826). The History, Antiquities, and Description of the Town and Parish of Worksop, in the County of Nottingham. (pp.23) Worksop: J.Blackwell. Google Books.
  • Hunter, J. (1819). "Pedigree of de Furnival, Lords of Hallamshire." Hallamshire: The History and Topography of the Parish of Sheffield : with Historical and Descriptive Notices of the Parishes of Ecclesfield, Hansworth, Treeton and Whiston, and of the Chapelry of Bradfield. (pp.31). Google Books.
  • Our Royal, Titled, Noble and Commoner Ancestors & Cousins database online, compiled by Mr. Marlyn Lewis, follows Douglas Richardson's Magna Carta Ancestry. It includes Magna Carta Surety Barons and many of their descendants.




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Hi folks. Two things.
  • Could the profile manager(s) resolve the redundant sections of the bio prose, which twice cycle through family and life details?
  • Can we remove link to Marlyn Lewis website? It doesn't go directly a profile or sourcing for this man. Therefore, it has no value.
posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
Which crusade is this man supposed to have died in?

The current death date (1240) falls between the earlier 5th Crusade (1217–1221) and later 7th Crusade (1248-1254). Frederick's 6th Crusade (1228–1229) didn't get to Egypt. (Or are we saying he was somehow a pilgrim to Jerusalem who accidentally ended up in Damietta; and was there killed by an enemy, between the wars?) I see in the bio we cite a source saying he died *after* 1249, but the profile itself says 1240. Best if we're not self-contradictory within the profile.

Taking a step back, I wonder if perhaps this is related to RJ's comment below that this profile conflates/jumps generations? Maybe there's a garble of which Furnival this is?

posted by Isaac Taylor
edited by Isaac Taylor
Clay, J.W: Extinct Northern Peerages (1913), page 81, III.
posted by [Living Horace]
According to Holland (1826) and Hunter (1819), this profile skips a few generations. Thomas I de Furnival (d.Palestine) has an UNKNOWN wife. Please examine link to pedigree. Note that Thomas III de Furnival had a sister Bertha m. Ralph Bigod, son of Earl of Norfolk.
posted by [Living Ogle]

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