Karen St. Jean
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Karen St. Jean

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Karen St. Jean
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Daughter of [private father (1940s - unknown)] DNA confirmed and [private mother (1940s - unknown)] DNA confirmed
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Descendant
Descendant of PGM migrant Rachel (Hubbard) Brundage.
Descendant
Descendant of PGM migrant Ralph Keeler.


Biography

I grew up in Woodstock, Connecticut. I first moved out of the area when I got married to an active-duty military officer. We have been on the move ever since. We are currently in Ohio.

I started my family tree about 20+ years ago when no one at my paternal family reunion could tell me what area in Canada we originally came from. Ancestry.com has helped me find documents and helped me store my tree for future generations. I also have put the tree on Family Search and now on WikiTree.

I am hard of hearing, so I have a difficult time calling people on the phone, but love to visit and write to historical societies and town halls. I have proved my husband's Mayflower line, and he has been a Mayflower Society member since 2005. I am currently working on getting him into the Society of the Cincinnati.

I love to analyze original genealogical documents to see what is written and how it is written. If there is an indexed transcription, I have learned that it came from an original document and you just have to find it.

I am currently looking at 1700s probate records and trying to incorporate them into the WT profiles.

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Hi, from Cape Cod 🦞 8th cousins once removed
posted by Jane (Cournoyer) McNicol
edited by Jane (Cournoyer) McNicol
I love the Cape! A native New Englander here! Thanks for posting!
posted by Karen St. Jean
Hi Karen,

Thanks for your contributions to Puritan Great Migration (PGM) project profiles.

Like all WikiTree projects we check in with team members periodically to find out about their continued interest in the project. Would you please respond by February 12, 2024, to let us know about your interest:

1. Would you like to continue as a PGM project team member?;

2. Do you have any suggestions for PGM Project priorities in the next year (optional)?;

3. Do you have interest in taking a more active role within the PGM project, and if so, what you might be interested in doing (optional)?

Please respond to this comment on your profile, or if you'd like, send a private message to either Bobbie (Madison) Hallor S (Hill) Willson.

Thanks for all you do for PGM and WikiTree!

Regards,

Bobbie and Sharon, Co-Leaders, Puritan Great Migration Project

posted by S (Hill) Willson
I’m still interested in being a team member. I’ve been busy with Plymouth probate in the 1800s, so just doing something different right now. Thanks!😊-Karen
posted by Karen St. Jean
Hello Karen:

I found additional information about the Brown family while doing my wife's genealogy, using the Family Search web site. This may be helpful, but you will have to review their data. The Brown cemetery in Foster, Rhode Island is difficult to find, but it is very interesting. If you need additional information, please send me an email. John

posted by John Leach Jr.
Hi Karen

I see you may be related to me through the Harden family. My Mayflower Associations - Bradford, Brewster, Latham, Mullins, Alden, Peabody/Pabody, Bartlett, Warren, Wood, Hanson, Carpenter, Winslow, Chilton, Alger, Packard, Haskell, Soule, Harden (through Latham).

How are you related to the Harden?

Donna

posted by Donna (Schultz) Mulvey
Hi Donna, Thanks for your note! I am not directly related to the Hardens as far as I know. I have been working my way through the Plymouth probate records and connecting the records to the people. I am related to William White from The Mayflower, although I haven't proven it to the Mayflower Society yet. My husband has all kinds of Mayflower connections, and his Richard Warren line is proven. If you would like to manage Martha Willis' profile let me know and I will disconnect myself. I left myself on it because of the question of which Samuel Harden did she marry. My first thought was she was the first wife of Samuel Harden, b. 1798. His marriage to Elizabeth Wade happened when he was in his 30s so there was room for another wife. I just couldn't find another source to connect them. I added a comment to the discussion, so I hope to follow what it decided. -Karen
posted by Karen St. Jean
Hello Karen!

Ah, I see. Then it's your husband is my Mayflower cousin. I too descend from Richard Warren through his daughter Mary. Yes, I would be honored to manage Martha's profile. It's wonderful to meet you, and look forward to chatting with you more. Thank you

Donna

posted by Donna (Schultz) Mulvey
I disconnected from her so you are free to adopt her! So good to see the connection and the write-up! Love WT and the collaboration! My husband descends through two of his daughters, Mary and Sarah. He then descends through Mary's daughter Elizabeth Bartlett who married Anthony Sprague. This line isn't the proven one, but could be easily enough.
posted by Karen St. Jean
Hello Karen,

Thanks for all the work you have put into the profiles you have added and updated. I have a habit of looking to see how I might be connected with I see surnames I am following... in this case BISHOP caught my eye in the daily WIKITree EMAIL.... my paternal grandmother.

Interestingly enough though, I found that I am related to both your paternal grandparents, and all four of your paternal great grandparents as well.

Even more interesting is that your St Jean ancestors are related to my mother's French Canadian family (Perreault).

Russell Raye Clark is the only person related to my BISHOPs. His wife Grace Burns Reynolds is related to my grandfather James Samuel Bateman (1887-1941).

It's a small world after all, eh?

posted by Sue (Bateman) Matthews
Hi Sue!

Thanks for the note! Nice to meet a cousin! WT says we have 235 common ancestors! I love the features that show how you are related to someone. I have been entering probates in Plymouth, and entering quite a bit. Just let me know if something doesn't seem right in any of the profiles you come across. WT is making the world smaller!!

posted by Karen St. Jean
Hi Karen,

I just wanted to follow up with you regarding the email I sent you on Apr 5. I hope you received it, but if not, please let me know and I will re-send it.

Thank you, S, PGM Project Co-leader

posted by S (Hill) Willson
Hi S,

I did receive your email. and thought I had added the following tag. I just added the PGM sticker. It is tax season so I have been multi-tasking, so maybe I didn't do it correctly. I'm still learning. I haven't joined Discord yet. I just got an email about a challenge I wish to join so I will register for Discord today. Please let me know if I am missing anything else. -Karen

posted by Karen St. Jean
Thank you, Karen.

Only one thing remains for you to do: let me know which team do you want to be part of - the Profile Improvement or Research Team? Once I know that I will add your badge. (See my original email for links to learn more about the two teams.)

We're very happy to have you join us.

S

posted by S (Hill) Willson
Please put me on the research team! Thanks!
posted by Karen St. Jean
Just wanted to stop by to say: I am in AWE of your contributions to New England profiles with all of the probate info you're posting. These records are so very valuable to have attached. Many, many thanks!
Bobbie
Mayflower Project co-Leader
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
edited by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Thanks so much for your comments! Love doing the probates and am amazed at how many profiles I am finding on WT to connect the information. Let me know if there are any that I screwed up and I will try and fix them. Also please edit my wording for the probates. And if you have any advise I'd love to hear it.

-Karen

posted by Karen St. Jean
Your work is great, and I haven't found any errors. Thanks for all the contributions, since they really add value. Advice? Join the Mayflower & PGM Projects! We'd love to have you. (And we have cool badges ;) ) But seriously, your work is very much appreciated by both projects, as well as by many of us whose 'personal' (non-project) profiles have been improved. The way you're doing it now is (IMHO) perfect. It leaves us with the data, citations, and links that we can use to add more info as we work on them.
Cheers,
Bobbie
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
edited by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
I think I am a member of the Mayflower project. I am a descendant of William White, not proven, and my husband is a descendant of several of them, with a proven line to Richard Warren. I will join the PGM Project today.
posted by Karen St. Jean
Ah, indeed! I misspoke and didn't dig down into your badges. Move those puppies up on your list ;)
posted by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
edited by Bobbie (Madison) Hall
Hi Karen,

Thanks for the edit on John Kingman-98.

Looking at the drop-down list of our common ancestors on your profile, I noticed that we are 9th cousins and our most recent common ancestors are John Hathaway (1629-1705) and Martha (Shepherd) Hathaway (1631-1692).

It also shows that our most distant common ancestor on WikiTree is apparently Pepin (Senlis) de Vermandois (abt. 0876 - abt. 0922), if you can believe it.

Cheers,

John Kingman

posted by John Kingman
edited by John Kingman
Thanks, Karen.

I appreciate the editing you did on Nathaniel Man. We all can use a little help when it comes to perfecting Profiles. Btw we are 10 Cousins.

posted by Keith Mann Spencer
edited by Keith Mann Spencer
Hi Kieth,

You’re welcome! I didn’t do much compared to you and others. 184 common ancestors to you! -Karen

posted by Karen St. Jean
Just discovered you by looking at recent changes to profiles of my ancestors. Looks like we are both descended from John Glover (b 1439) -- 16th cousins twice removed!

I'm loving all the data analysis you're doing with probate records. Thanks for doing all that. Nice to see another relative-- however distant-- who loves to mine data for genealogical gems.

posted by Jillaine Smith
Thanks for your note! I sometimes wonder what our ancestors would think of genealogy today, it is unfathomable probably to meet a sixteenth cousin! I love the phrase "mine data for genealogical gems", so true to what we do.
posted by Karen St. Jean
Hello Karen, thank you for finding the will of my ancestor Phillip Jarvis, Sr. It helps establish that his wife died before he did and gives the names of his sons and sons-in-law. I really appreciate your help, and so soon after I posted a request!! Jane Snell Copes
posted by Jane (Snell) Copes
Karen,

Thank you for finding and posting the will and probate record of Samuel Richards. He and his first wife Esther Hayden are my ancestors, and I was interested to see that he apparently had a second wife named Elizabeth. I noticed that the bequest to his son Frederick is handled differently from the bequest to his other sons and am wondering if that might be because Frederick was the son of his second wife. What do you think?

Louisa Nickerson (Nickerson-3382)

posted by Lou Nickerson
Hi Lou, thanks for sending me a note. The wording in the will does seem to point to two sets of children. I believe Elizabeth’s children are Esther, Elizabeth and Frederick. I have seen many times where the first female child of the second wife is named after the wife that had died. Looking at Family Search for Samuel Richard’s, they have him having two wives, Esther Hayden and Elizabeth Waring/Warren. Her father is Isaac Waring (Waring-245), and she did indeed get a distribution from her father after he died in 1766. There is no profile for Elizabeth Waring though so she is not connected to her father or to Samuel Richard’s. I haven’t come across his estate distribution yet, but that may not happen until years after he dies, I suspect one may be in 1790 which may be when his widow, Elizabeth remarries. If I find it I’ll post it. Thanks again for sending me a note!

Karen

posted by Karen St. Jean
Although I don't doubt that female children of the second wife were sometimes named after the first wife, I don't think that's what happened in this case because the Barbour collection birth record for Samuel's daughter Esther on Ancestry.com (where my main tree is) lists her birthdate as 13 Oct 1771, and Esther Hayden Richards didn't die until 5 Oct 1776. I was working on Esther the elder this afternoon anyway and just added the death record to Wikitree.
posted by Lou Nickerson
It does sound like Esther Jr. is Esther Hayden child! I’m glad the will helped with Samuel Richard’s. Happy hunting!
posted by Karen St. Jean
Seems possible that Giles Ellsworth is a duplicate for Gustavus Ellsworth - Ellsworth 424. https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Ellsworth-424
posted by Jim Pace
Hi Jim, thanks for the note. Looking quickly at it, I believe they are two different people. Giles died in 1796 and left a will which can be seen on Ancestry.com. Here is a shareable link to the first page. https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/4512?token=4Qxk%2FY8tdx9vxd9pCwgqqvef80dGgtf9UhUgDWuFs98%3D

He does have a daughter Kezia but she married a Bissell. He also have a son named Gilbert and Roger. So the children of the men are different.

Maybe a good chance they are related some way. -Karen

posted by Karen St. Jean
Thanks for looking. If you ever have any questions on the Ellsworths from Windsor you can go to the facebook page for the Oliver Ellsworth Homestead. It is maintained by the CT. DAR. They have looked up several things for me. I used the Facebook messenger to contact them. Keziah seems to be a name that would not pop up without some relationship. I can get out my Ellsworth History book and look a deeper. I did see Keziah has several pages listed in the index.
posted by Jim Pace
Hello, The Mayflower Project is requesting that you check-in to let us know you are still interested in being a badged member of the Mayflower Project.

Requirements to maintain your status as a badged Mayflower Project Member: (1) The mayflower G2G tag is required to be a member. (2) You must be active on Wikitree within the last year. If you are barely active you may also be removed. (3) You must respond to checkin requests. Note that if you manage one or more Mayflower profiles you will not be asked to checkin.

You may respond by replying to this comment or sending me a private message. Thank you for being a member of WikiTree and the Mayflower Project.

posted by Anne B
Yes, I am still interested! Thanks for the check in!
posted by Karen St. Jean
Hello Karen,

This past Feb. you posted an Ancestry link to the probate records of John Russell. Since I do not subscribe to Ancestry, & Family Search does not have access to these probate records, I'd like to ask you to post the images of his probate to his profile.

I'm trying to find out who his parents were & there may be clues in these records.

Thank you.

Nace.

posted by Nace Few
Hi Nace,

I added a "Free Ancestry image" to the source. Due to copyright, I don't think I can download the image and upload it to WT. The letters of administration on these pages are from soldiers that went to Fort Edward during the French and Indian War but did not return.

I will keep you in mind if I run across any information during this time period about the Russells. -Karen

posted by Karen St. Jean
Hi, Karen!

You added Gregory-5272 as a spouse for Pennoyer-25 but I see no sources. I've also consulted Ancestors & Descendants of Henry Gregory, Complied by Grant Gregory and found no mention of Pennoyer-25 in association with Gregory-5272. I've seen profiles on Ancestry where the two were linked, but again without sources. There is no evidence that Pennoyer-25 was still living in 1748 to marry Gregory-5272, so any supporting documentation would be much appreciated. Thank you.

posted by Karen (Maher) Fuller
Hi Karen!

I put the probate record of her husband Holly on her profile. In 1749 she is still living and is the only surviving executor of the estate. She is called Marcy Holly alias Gregory. The link will take you to his will. The 1749 entry is after his inventory. Let me know if what you think. I am not feeling well today, so if you want to disconnect the relationship go ahead. I couldn't find Ebenezer Gregory's probate records, but will try again when I am feeling better.

posted by Karen St. Jean
Sorry you aren't feeling well, there's no rush. The probate record is helpful. I'd just like to be able to support the marriage date and connection to "Ebenezer" Gregory with a source. Thank you.
posted by Karen (Maher) Fuller
Karen, on the changes to the Fish-1064 profile that you recently made, I'm quite sure you have confused David Fish the father (10 Mar 1710 - 1 Apr 1781) with David Fish his son (15 Mar 1734 - 3 Dec 1779). The will that you have cited was that of the latter, who did die 2 years before his father (see the Fish-1533 profile for that). Many elements in that will distinguish the two men of the different generations, the most obvious of them being the name of the son's wife, Lydia (nee Dennis), as contrasted with the name of the father's wife, Jemima. Several of the named children are also distinguishing features between the two generations.
posted by John French Ph.D.
Thanks for making the corrections! And letting me know.
posted by Karen St. Jean
edited by Karen St. Jean
Hi Karen, could you change Elezer Lamson and his father to Lampson? That is the correct spelling, thank you,
posted by Ellen Gustafson
Thanks for adding Sarah Nichols Johnson [Nichols-15976] as a daughter of John and Rachel Nichols. Please follow up with all 3 profiles and add a primary source to document this or add a note to the profiles that it is speculative. Thanks again!
posted by Beth (Brown) Golden
Again, thanks for improving these profiles! I'd be happy to transfer the management to you. Just let me know.
posted by Beth (Brown) Golden
Hi Beth,

Thanks for the notes! The Nichols are on my husband's side. I'm pretty new to WT and just trying to add info to profiles that I have info with sources. I will ask to be put on the trusted list for the Nichols.

posted by Karen St. Jean
Most welcome, Karen. You're now on the Trusted List and a manager for John Nichols and wife Rachel. It will be quite awhile before I'm able to attend to their profiles so please work away to tell their stories! Thanks again!! So many ancestors, so little time :D
posted by Beth (Brown) Golden
Hello Karen,

Thanks for taking the Pre-1700 Quiz!

Pre-1700 ancestors can be shared by many descendants, so collaboration is essential. You can learn more about joining the community in How To #3 and in the Project FAQ.

The Canada Project may fit your research focus. If not, use the Pre-1700 Projects list to find other possibilities. Review the project page to learn about resources and guidelines as well as how to collaborate with the project members.

Have questions? Ask in the comments section of my profile.

Remember to cite reliable sources in pre-1700 profiles that you manage or edit. (See: Pre-1700 Reliable Sources).

Ginny ~ Pre-1700 Greeter

Hello Karen!

Thank you for joining us! I wanted to check in with you to see how things are going. How do you like WikiTree so far? Have the tips in the New Member How To Pages been helpful or have they left you with questions?

Please let me know if you have any questions about WikiTree. To contact me, log in to WikiTree and go to your profile. Use the ‘Reply’ link below my comment to be sure that I will be notified. You can also click my name to send a private message, or post a comment on my profile page. It's really great to have you on board.

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